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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello /leftypol/, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftychan.net/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.pictures/post/list/debunk/1
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 No.488370

>>444873
my numby wumby

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 No.478400[Reply]

This thread will detail some of the changes made to the site in the past year, as well as our plans for the future.

New i2p Address
As requested by several users, and in accordance with our general ethos of encouraging online anonymity, leftychan now has an i2p address which can be found here:
http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p or http://leftychan.i2p/

Moderation Changes
* New spam filter - Thanks to the hard work of our dev and admin Zer0-, leftychan now has an effective countermeasure against the automatic bot spam that plagues alt-chans. Dubbed as the 'spam noticer', the implementation of this system has led to a dramatic fall in malicious advertisement threads being posted to the site.
* New mods & dev - In order to better cover european and asian timezones, two more mods have been voted onto the team. These are sindikat, who has previous moderation experience, and jon, who is also acting as a dev and has made many valuable contributions in this capacity.
* Removal of Zul - In line with the rule that if a mod is inactive for over 15 weeks their status as a mod is called into question, Zul was voted off the mod team.

New Roulette Board
>>>/777/
After some discussion, we decided on /k/ as the new roulette board theme, replacing /CHAD/. Archived threads from previous roulette cycles can still be viewed here >>>/roulette_archive/
Any suggestions for future roulette board rotations are welcome.
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 No.487989

>>487934
>>487916
Yeah it happened.
Basically, Caballo was refusing to follow his own rules and constantly stepping out of line so there was an attempt to create some democratic methodology by Comatoast, Zero, and Watermelon with the supprt of some other users, but, they had a backdoor in Krates which had been inactive for like a year at that point.

Can't believe that's you, what a twist.

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Virginia Giuffre, who accused Jeffrey Epstein of sexual abuse, dies aged 41
Giuffre’s family issued a statement confirming she took her own life at her farm in Western Australia, where she had lived for several years
Virginia Giuffre, one of the most prominent victims of the disgraced US financier Jeffrey Epstein who also alleged she was sexually trafficked to Prince Andrew, has died. She was 41.

Her family issued a statement on Saturday confirming she took her own life at her farm in Western Australia, where she had lived for several years.

“It is with utterly broken hearts that we announce that Virginia passed away last night at her farm in Western Australia. She lost her life to suicide, after being a lifelong victim of sexual abuse and sex trafficking,” the statement read.

“In the end, the toll of abuse is so heavy that it became unbearable for Virginia to handle its weight.”

Giuffre was one of the most vocal victims of Epstein, alleging she had been groomed and sexually abused by him and his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, beginning in her teens.

The family described her as a “fierce warrior” against sexual abuse and sex trafficking and a “light that lifted so many survivors”.

“Despite all the adversity she faced in her life, she shone so bright. She will be missed beyond measure,” they said.
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 No.487384[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

One Year of Genocide

Continued from >>484995

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 61,000. Excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

In early January 2025, Israel agreed to a ceasefire in Gaza and a prisoner exchange. Despite all of the killing, Hamas's military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, appears to have largely replenished its numbers, and threw parades celebrating the exchange. The ceasefire is on terms Hamas had already agreed to in May 2024.

Following Hezbollah strikes on Tel Aviv, a ceasefire in Lebanon was agreed to on November 27th. Israel proceeded to violate this ceasefire more than 600 times, and has refused to leave the country at the agreed-upon 60 day deadline, prompting unarmed civilians to stage protests and drive them out of parts of south Lebanon.

Lebanese Army leader Joseph Aoun was elected president of Lebanon.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad was overthrown by US-backed al-Qaeda operatives. Israel proceeded to steal more land from Syria and launched a massive bombing campaign on Syria and Syria's arsenal without any resistance.

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 No.489023

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US military carries out more strikes across Yemen

Houthi-affiliated media outlet Al Masirah TV is reporting several US military attacks across Yemen over recent hours, including:

One raid in as-Salif district in Hodeidah governorate
One raid on Kamaran island in Hodeidah governorate
Two raids in Bani Hashish district in Sanaa governorate
Two raids on Sufyan district in Amran governorate
Four raids on Madghal district in Marib governorate
No deaths have been reported so far in these attacks. We will bring you more information when we have it.

Houthis have shot down 7 US Reaper drones worth $200m in recent weeks: Report

The Yemen-based Houthis have shot down seven US Reaper drones worth more than $200m in less than six weeks, The Associated Press news agency reports, citing unnamed US defence officials.

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 No.489025

>>489018
True, but also, are they not getting away with it?
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 No.489027

https://x.com/NerdeenKiswani/status/1915724063760077201
The bloodied face of a girl hit by a brick thrown by Zionists. They hurled bricks, eggs, and urine at mostly young women and other Jews protesting baby-killer Ben Gvir in Brooklyn. No synagogues were surrounded. No Jews were threatened. We won’t live in your delusions.
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 No.489033

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At least six US air strikes target Yemen: Report

Houthi-affiliated news outlet Al Masirah TV has reported that six US air strikes have targeted the Bajil district in the Hodeidah governorate in Yemen.

Three new F-35I fighter jets land in Israel: Army

The Lockheed Martin aircraft landed at the Nevatim Air Force Base last night, according to a statement by the military.

They will join the 140th Squadron, the statement added.

The Times of Israel said that the jets are part of Israel’s initial order of 50 warplanes from the American company.

Another 25 were ordered last year, it added.

Dozens of recent deaths in Gaza attributed to hunger
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 No.489034

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 No.489028[Reply]

I’m a longtime 4chan/8chan user and my worldview has definitely been shaped by that. Recently been browsing the other site out of curiosity and it’s clear we both have issues with Israel which I’m pleasantly surprised by.
my question is where and how far down the rabbit hole do we actually align with each other?
Are your guys problems with Israel mainly due to the modern day Israel and their atrocities against the muzzies or do you guys see jews for the weasels they are? Do you see the difference between the Israelites of the Bible and the Talmud worshippers of today? Do you acknowledge the khazarian and/or Canaanite connections? What are your views on the holocaust, true, exaggerated, complete BS? What are your actual issues with nazi’s and facism? Because the first thing that comes to mind for me would be that you all worship transhumanists but even to that I would say they are basically brainwashed into it by jews. Like the “Nazi book burnings” which was all transhumanist propaganda by jewish doctors in Germany at the time running the largest sex change clinic in the world.
I’m genuinely curious this is the first issue I’ve know us to be able to find common ground on and I’d like to learn more about your ideas regarding it. And yes I will admit I do align with facism, or at least my own interpretation of it

Hoping for a real dialogue if you’ll indulge me
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 No.489029

>What are your actual issues with nazi’s and facism?
That they're really just stooges for the ruling capitalist class, who call them in to enforce their system violently when the system is in crisis. For an excellent example of this, see >>488990
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 No.489030

>>489028
>Are your guys problems with Israel mainly due to the modern day Israel and their atrocities against the muzzies or do you guys see jews for the weasels they are?
This question is predicated on a false premise that the IDF has only been committing atrocities against Muslims. They've been murdering Christians and atheists all over the place too. They've bombed multiple churches in Palestine and Lebanon in the past year alone, and HTS (effectively a US/Israel proxy) has targeted Alawites in Syria.
Even if Israel only targeted Muslims (or Christians, or Jews, or anyone) with their genocidal onslaught, we would oppose it, and we would oppose the endless US government military and financial support for it.

We oppose all Zionism and all Zionists. We have no particular problem with Jews, although many of us take issue with religion in general. I'm not one of those, though.

>Do you see the difference between the Israelites of the Bible and the Talmud worshippers of today?
This is another kind of iffy question.
Even if it wasn't for the creation of Talmudic Judaism, "Israel" the modern nation state and ancient semi-historical Israel are clearly not the same thing. Zionist ideology was made up by European Jews and European/American Protestants, and the amount of lineage of the former to ancient Israel is disputable. The Jews, Samaritans, Christians, and Muslims who remained in Palestine likely all are more directly descended from "ancient Israelites" than present day Ashkenazim are, as most of the Christians and Muslims in present day "Israel" and Palestine are descended from Jewish and Samaritan converts.

Obviously the Talmud also didn't exist in Biblical times. The Tanakh as we know it today didn't even exist, and most of those stories are fables and were intended to be read as fables even in ancient times. The Talmud was an even later addition than the Tanakh, and even strict followers of the Torah, who think the Talmud is a heretical shitrag, have changed since ancient times. The archetypal ultra-orthodox Jew today dressing in the fashions of old eastern European nobility obviously isn't a practice which came directly out of the ancient Levant. Over time, religion always adapts with its practitioners. Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.489031

Anchoring the state of Israel in a religious background is a mistake anyway. Most of the original Zionists were actually atheists.
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 No.489032

>>489028
> my question is where and how far down the rabbit hole do we actually align with each other?
I don't know what your goals are.

>Are your guys problems with Israel mainly due to the modern day Israel and their atrocities against the muzzies or do you guys see jews for the weasels they are?

Our problems with Isreal are:
-the mass death and destruction they cause in their region
-their funding of religious fundamentalists that function like mercenary armies
-their big lobby that interferes in the politics of mainly western countries (but also some none western ones), for example their lobby was instrumental in sabotaging the election of Jeremy Corbin in the UK, and more recently they have been instrumental in attacking civil liberties in the US and EU.
-Israel has been using Gaza as a testing ground for really depraved people-repression instruments and tactics, and some of that stuff gets out and is then used else-where. Basically we do not want "sadism in a test tube" to be done anywhere, we do not need that type of "innovation".

Ok when we call people "Jew" or "Muslim", we're just being polite, using the labels and identities they have given them selves. However when we think about stuff and try to model reality, we do not use any of those categories, beyond lifestyle superficiality: like if you have a Muslim group in your population you need to have production for their religious carpets, Christians want necklaces with a cross, Jews want religious hats and so on.

We do have a mental category for untrustworthy people (weasels) but we base that on demonstrated character on an individual basis, not group affiliation.
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If you are not posting on 4chan you are failing as a leftist in the most fundemental way possible. Right now there is a huge opportunity to use the market crash and consequential recession that is coming to turn a lot of dissolusioned right wingers over to our side. To the side of truth, reason and sanity. I post on /b/ at the very least when a thread comes up revolving around trump and go on pol daily. We have to be where they are. We cannot just keep sequestering ourselves off in our hug boxes all the time. You have to be posting on 4chan as well.
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 No.488668

The CIA will never let actual leftist rhetoric take hold on any mainstream platform. That's just not a thing. For every one of your posts they have 10 bots posting gotchas.

Go to a march. Get organized with socialists. Find the next step you guys are going to work on.
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 No.488744

>guys we need to go on 4chan and befriend a bunch of aimless anti productive louts who think spamming slurs is funny and don't wanna work to help further the cause of leftism
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 No.488745

>>488744
while i agree with your sentiment i think this is missing the point. we're talking about leftychan, not a real movement. there is no point in going out into the real world and trying to connect with so-called ordinary people in order to bring them into the fold, because the artificial trivialities of this place has nothing to do with the concerns of those in meatspace. so in this sense OP is correct, 4chan is as good a place as any to "recruit" new members "over to our side"
anyone who makes leftychan (or .ogre for that matter) a part of their identity is already "failing as a leftist in the most fundamental way possible" and the internet itself has long since become a force that encourages us to be "sequestering ourselves off in our hug boxes all the time"
the revolutionary leap that is demanded of us is to transform the internet into the opposite, as something which can complement a real movement rather than convert it into…whatever this is
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 No.489021

THIS thread didn't age well
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 No.489024

>>488634
>If you are not posting on 4chan you are failing as a leftist
It's none of my fucking responsibility, tankie. And not like I hasn't been told that before but with something else in place of "posting on 4chan," I don't give a shit.

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 No.487545[Reply]

>mfw there's nothing mutual about it
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 No.487605

I think single moms need money
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 No.489020

wtf i like mutual aid now

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 No.483667[Reply]

Only post bangers

keep the clips short
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 No.488990

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>>488973
>US imperialism supported the Azov Battalion
>Go look up who funded Hitlers political party and mercenary gangs.
By the way, I really wish lefties would bring up more often the fact that the Azov Battalion was literally funded by a Ukrainian-Israeli billionaire. It brings to bear so many amazing points about the nature of fascism, Zionism, and ruling class interests.
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 No.488993

>>488989
no dude, seriously? im literally just telling you about the dilemma that zizek is raising, i never gave an argument in favor of one conclusion or another, why are you just assuming what i believe
please god im begging you people to just engage with zizek here instead of treating this like some kind of breadtuber debate ffs
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 No.488997

>>488990
Honestly, this was a really weird thing when I put two and two together about how it could be significant.
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 No.489012

>>488976
When I'm general secretary of the United Socialist States of America we will have a secret program that is basically a staged repeat of covid. Creat a panic, rush out a vaccine, don't publish trial data, make up bullshit public health protocols, stage an illegal transfer of wealth.

Then question, strip of title, and re-educate anyone going along with this. Oh you're a doctor and you were okay giving this vaccine? Lose your license. Oh you agreed to give this vaccine to your kids? Maybe you need to take a class.

You're a community leader and you didn't organize against this? Step down.

In fact a socialst government should practice changing leadership by force: every so often people will be required to arm themselves and storm the parliament and depose of the previous government. If they're willing to step downw it will all be staged. If not the people will have practiced for this.
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 No.489013

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>>489012
>socialist government
>the parliament
Sorry anon we're going to try actual democracy this time.

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 No.488693[Reply]

Seriously, what the fuck is the solution to this? How do we stop them from acting this way?
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 No.489008

>>488693
Don't start wars you can't finish.
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 No.489009

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>>489008
It's astonishing that even in a thread like this, you're still the most bad faith and hateful poster participating.
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 No.489010

There is no "Jewish question" Only retards deal in personalities.
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 No.489014

>>488994
all israelis are fascist freaks. killing them all is a standard leftist position.
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 No.489015

>>489014
Um excuse me
it's ackshually somewhere from 90%-98% of Israelis sir

 No.488903[Reply]

The issue is neoprogressivism and third-/fourth-wave feminism of the New Left, not progressivism and feminism per se.
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 No.488914

>>488910
>could you define your terms
Neoprogressivism is 21st century progressivism, third- and fourth-wave feminism is mainstream feminist theory from the 90s onward (radfems, radlibs).
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 No.488916

>>488914
Third/fourth wave feminism actually started in the 1980s
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 No.488949

>>488916
>Third/fourth wave feminism actually started in the 1980s
Yeah, my bad ig.
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 No.488981

>>488914
i think it would be more accurate to talk it about a degenerated reprisal of the american left in the form of the millenial left, haunted by the failure and collapse of the left at the turn of the century
we saw the same militant identitarianism and youth fetishization of the new left plus its battles with old labour (think eugene debs) reemerging in sanders, but in a weirdly detached hipster way
its a cheap borrowing from history (a.k.a. a LARP) that doesnt match the same conditions which is probably why it comes off as so hysterical
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 No.488996

Third wave feminism is way better than the abomination that was second wave.

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