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 No.484694[Reply]

>One of the most significant pieces of evidence is the testimony of Otto Ernst Remer. In a 1997 interview, Remer admitted that he had received Soviet backing during his time in the party. Remer stated that he had met with KGB officials in East Berlin and had received financial and logistical support from the Soviet Union.[13] In addition to Remer's testimony, there are other sources of evidence that support the claim that the Soviet Union supported the SRP. For example, a 1953 KGB memo outlines the agency's efforts to cultivate and support right-wing extremist groups in Germany, including the SRP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Reich_Party


What the hell guys, I thought the USSR was heckin anti-fascist???? What gives???
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 No.486458

Trotsky keeps getting vindicated
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 No.486466

>>486458
Was Trotsky vindicated when he wanted to retain a rump Russian state with him as leader by giving concessions to Nazi Germany?
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 No.486479

Did OP forget all of the ideologies Mussolini was inspired by?
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 No.486488

>>486479
anarchism? Syndicalism? Which other brands of liberalism
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 No.486489

>>486466
My brother, St*lin literally made a pact with H*tler and lead a bureaucratic counter revolution.


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 No.486436[Reply]

Discuss.
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 No.486467

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 No.486473

>>486467
>Am I gonna die?
Eventually, yes.

Last time i checked was maybe 3 years ago, i could remember incorrectly or what i'm about to say could be out of date:

H5N1 affects youthful and vital people a lot harsher than old or sickly people. It's not transmitted through the air, only through direct contact (infectiousness is low) and it's rather deadly (virality is high). About half the people who got it died.

That means it's not a particularly good candidate for a pandemic.

If a virus knocks out people who are fit, while it leaves weaker people relatively unaffected, that means it chose the least effective spreader-subjects, Grandma likely isn't going to a big concert where she can infect hundreds of people. Without areal transmission, behavioral counter measures are easy. And by killing off half the people, it cuts off many transmission vectors.

All that said, it could mutate, viruses do that a lot. Then all bets are off. If a mutation causes a "gain of function" that enables transmission through air, civilization could be fucked.

There are standard procedures that should nip this in the butt. People who work in these industries should have good protective gear, which is comfortable enough that it actually gets used. I'm guessing suits with portable cooling units, factory farms tend to be rather warm places. It's probably sufficient to ban raw products, you know cook the eggs, milk, meats and so on before selling it. And have veterinary doctors screen animals before they get transferred to prevent cross contamination. We are getting to a point where prevention has become much more economically viable and hatching viruses is less of a sanitary negligence anymore and it's slowly turning into a kind of bioterrorism.
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 No.486474

Yeah the FDC has been tracking the spread of this for a while. Several hundred people in California have been infected. though, the thing is there is currently, or, was, no proof that it was being spread from PERSON to PERSON contact, but, that could be changing and it could be changing just in time for vaccine denialist kook to get in and chair the HHC!!! There is one patient that could have an adapted form of Bird flu that passes person to person now. I mean it's just a matter of time. All it has to do is branch off with certain protiens and it can spread human to human…. It's sad but the only thing you can do is pray he doesn't get approved, but, Elon is running around making demands of the fucking government now. I think this is going to be a disaster if we keep going down the path we are going.
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 No.486476

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/bird-flu-spread-cattle-poultry-pandemic-cdc/

>Keith Poulsen’s jaw dropped when farmers showed him images on their cellphones at the World Dairy Expo in Wisconsin in October. A livestock veterinarian at the University of Wisconsin, Poulsen had seen sick cows before, with their noses dripping and udders slack.


>But the scale of the farmers’ efforts to treat the sick cows stunned him. They showed videos of systems they built to hydrate hundreds of cattle at once. In 14-hour shifts, dairy workers pumped gallons of electrolyte-rich fluids into ailing cows through metal tubes inserted into the esophagus.


>“It was like watching a field hospital on an active battlefront treating hundreds of wounded soldiers,” he said.


>Nearly a year into the first outbreak of the bird flu among cattle, the virus shows no sign of slowing. The U.S. government failed to eliminate the virus on dairy farms when it was confined to a handful of states, by quickly identifying infected cows and taking measures to keep their infections from spreading. Now at least 875 herds across 16 states have tested positive.


>Experts say they have lost faith in the government’s ability to contain the outbreak.


>“We are in a terrible situation and going into a worse situation,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada. “I don’t know if the bird flu will become a pandemic, but if it does, we are screwed.”


>To understand how the bird flu got out of hand, KFF Health News interviewed nearly 70 government officials, farmers and farmworkers, and researchers with expertise in virology, pandemics, veterinary medicine, and more.

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 No.486477

>>486476
Big and little porky screw us again.

The unexplained cases are really worrying. Early on there was the question of whether or not the virus was being killed by pasteurization. Some study came out saying, oh, don't worry, it's all good, but I'm not entirely convinced. Apparently there are a few forms of the process and they might not all be effective at killing the virus. That's to say nothing about raw milk and the morons that drink it.

All we need now is Trump to come in and deport all these infected farm workers to really ignite a disaster.


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 No.480629[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I have been banned from leftypol.org for saying, that you can be a leftist and also oppose trans-ideology. This is not a fringe position, since Sahra Wagenknecht openly voiced her opposition against trans-ideology in the german parliament live on TV. And yes, she calls it that way.
I'm interested, how this site here will react to left-conservative opinions.
https://www.sahra-wagenknecht.de/de/article/3336.ihr-gesetz-macht-eltern-und-kinder-zu-versuchskaninchen-der-pharmaindustrie.html
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 No.486449

>>486358
Just a reminder that you're a fucking retard.
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 No.486456

>>486375
>At least I don't cherry pick
You kinda do. You're fixated on this one media story while you ignore the rest of reality that contradicts your argument.

>disingenious to say, or, imply, you have to have a political lobbyu in public view to influence the motives of a government and it's people.

It's kinda unavoidable, any significant influence is going to get noticed.

>spent millions of dollars on media

You are in effect arguing that funding media is election interference. If you applied that as a principle, it likely would have very dramatic consequences. I wonder how the media landscape looked like if media could only get money from small donations from it's audience. Tbh i haven't investigated, so i can't really speak to this.

Regardless, if you are making the accusation that the political processes were interfered with, you kinda have to show what the alleged interference has done ? If this doesn't do anything, why care about this ? unless it's just a pretext for a political which-hunt.

Looking at the effects of the machinations of the Zionist lobby, very dramatic violations of democratic rights have occurred. There's an example for you.
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 No.486457

>>486383
>Of course I'm incredulous. Why would anyone with a skeptical bone in their body or any sort of critical thinking skills be anything but incredulous after eight years of endless lies and manufactured controversies about the Russian boogeyman?
Yeah they cried Russia-gate so many times. And they've made false accusations against anti-war people, almost equating opposing the drive to war with treason. That was the point where i checked out and filed the hole thing under warmongering.
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 No.486459

>>486384
>If you cannot take the time out of your day to read factual information
The mainstream media are sales people who try to sell wars, factual information is incidental.
They invented weapons of mass destruction and infanticide to sell a war in Iraq, they invented chemical attacks in Syria, and at some point they even claimed China was murdering between 1 and 2 million people in extermination camps.

If they say stuff that sounds like another sales-pitch for war, it's not unreasonable to just dismiss it.
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 No.486460

>>486391
>You faggots are literally just Russian spies lmfao
They said that about everybody who predicted that a Nato-Russia proxy war would back-fire.

>>486393
kek we have a new unit of measurement
0.1 Rogan


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 No.486172[Reply]

Why is no one talking about HR.4359? The "Crucial communism teaching act" Which is basically a bill that is being pushed to force anti communist teachings in public schools? This is such a disgusting fucking joke. Are we are to witness another red scare in this country?
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 No.486174

>>486173
Not OP but they've switched to state mandated anti-communist propaganda, which is explicit. At least that's how I interpret it.

Let's hope it works out worse than D.A.R.E and the war on drugs.
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 No.486176

While this is surely an escalation, we have to realize that teaching can only ever go so far in informing people. The problem is that schools are a dependent institution funded by the government. And the moment you start giving students ideas that the system might not be the best possible system we can come up with is when you run into vested interests prepared to pull your funding. In Marxist terms they are a "subsumed class process". Leftists honestly need to do a better job communicating the class character of schools.
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 No.486177

>>486176
You can't actually use ideology to trick people that way. People who live in a broken system, know it, propaganda can't out-compete lived reality.

The goal of this shit, is to get everybody to pretend the system works.
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 No.486178

>>486173
>>486174
>>486177

Schooling has always been anti-worldly. Teachers have always pathologised students who express non-liberal opinions, use new tech, or adopt new slang.
Or homemade academic methods of solving math problems.
Teachers like to talk about how they love teaching and want students to learn critical thinking but they get offended when kids do t conform to the presumed role of wide eyed innocence.
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 No.486179

>>486172
>Are we are to witness another red scare in this country?
We're heading rapidly into an era of outright dictatorship in the US. It's the long-term result/goal of the neoliberal project: remove functions of state from any semblance of democratic control through privatization and deregulation, and then use those privatized functions to do things which the government would come under fire for if it did directly, all while increasing control over national wealth and increasing capture over the political state itself.
It doesn't matter that the US really has no major united socialist movement to speak of. America's rentier capitalist elites know that a crisis is coming and are acting preemptively to protect their control over wealth and power. Meanwhile, workers are not acting and organizing quickly enough.

This year, we are going to see the next major recession… it will most likely begin within the next 6 months. This will be before or after the start of WWIII with a major war on Iran. Trump might be a dotard, but he is still intended as the "bad cop" of the American oligarchic state, although it's possible that he dies and they replace him with Thiel's Vance. What we're looking at is so much worse than most people comprehend, and they've been working on this shit since the '80s, and working even harder since the '00s. This insane red scare shit is the tip of the fucking iceberg.


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 No.483794[Reply]

Remember when people thought this guy was some kind of lefty?
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 No.484487

>>484431
É verdade camarada anão.
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 No.484494

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>>483796
Looks like the diamond billionaire caved and complied with Brazilian demands to ban accounts the government doesn't like.
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 No.484518

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Y'all should get into Brazilian Maoismo

Procurem estudar o Maoismo
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 No.486167

https://petras.lahaine.org/the-worker-president-and-the-banker/
https://petras.lahaine.org/brazil-extractive-capitalism-and-the-great-leap-backward/


Just two short articles for fellow Brazilians to remember who Lula really is as our country continues to get raped by Bankers with the unconditional support by our Father of The Poor (trademark)

https://x.com/comentadosuave/status/1865508031988961369
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 No.486168

Lula é um comunista lixoso. Deu dinheiro para Maduro, Irã, puxa o saco da Russia. Apoia o ativismo juridico do stf e do cabeça de rola, so sabe cobrar imposto e aumentar burocracia, indicou advogado ao stf. Sem falar que ele É o protagonista dos dois MAIORES escandalos de corrupção da historia do pais e so esta solto porque tem amigos no STF que o soltaram. Petistas, pau no cu de vcs


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 No.478550[Reply]

Aerial evidence follows months of President Nicolás Maduro ramping up claim to Essequibo region

Venezuela is expanding military bases near its border with Guyana and deploying forces to the jungle frontier as President Nicolás Maduro ramps up his threats to annex the country’s oil-rich neighbour, satellite images have revealed.

Maduro pledged at mediation talks in December not to take military action against his neighbour but images shared by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington today suggest a buildup of forces.

Christopher Hernandez-Roy, deputy director of CSIS’s Americas programme, said: “The same day that the Venezuelan foreign minister is meeting with Guyanese diplomats, the Venezuelan military is conducting tank drills just a stone’s throw from Guyana. All of this tells us Maduro is pursuing a duplicitous policy.”

Venezuela has long laid claim to the resource-rich Essequibo region, which makes up two-thirds of Guyana, but Maduro has ramped up the country’s claim to the disputed territory in recent months.

After months of campaigning, the country held a vote in December in which Maduro said the Venezuelan people backed the country to take the vast swathe of jungle by force.

The aerial shots show that while Venezuelan diplomats subsequently met their Guyanese counterparts to calm simmering regional tensions, the Venezuelan military sent tanks and missile-equipped patrol boats to the border.

“This escalatory behavior on the part of Venezuela creates opportunities for miscalculation and loss of control over events on the ground,” CSIS warns in its report on the escalating dispute.
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 No.478559

>>478556
An interesting observation. I wonder if anyone's thought of that.
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 No.478560

fuck the socdem backstabber maduro, suppressing the PCV, making deals with the great satan and dengist china, and ignoring the awful conditions of the venezuelan worker. but he'll waste time and money on a useless war just to distract from his betrayals.
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 No.478565

>>478556
>America could use this as a excuse to deploy troops.
>>478559
>I wonder if anyone's thought of that.
Maybe that's the point.

Venezuela can't conquer Essequibo if the US deploys its military. But the US will have forces tied up in a stalemate and the ExonMobile project in Essequibo would likely become indefinitely postponed. With the Exon Mobile project stalled, US reliance on Venezuelan oil production will continue, and Venezuela keeps it's negotiation lever to keep sanctions at bay.
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 No.486078

According to Redstream on Twitter, "Is the US preparing for war with Venezuela? Caracas says that US Southern Command is carrying out joint military exercises in neighboring Guayana."

https://x.com/redstreamnet/status/1865013088937726441
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 No.486079

>>486078
More on that


 No.483723[Reply]

Seriously wtf
Is Macron dictator for life now? What's happening? What's going on?
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 No.483729

>>483728
>I feel like we might actually be at a turning point with this stuff. The pro-Palestine/anti-genocide movement in the US has comparable stuff going on, where the so-called "centrists" keep rejecting absolutely every generous concession and compromise from the people they characterize as "radicals," who actually represent an ever-growing portion of popular consensus.
What i found noteworthy was how surprised and befuddled the ruling classes were when they got so much shit for supporting a genocide. They appear to have mentally disconnected from the population. That's probably why they're rejecting every compromise that's offered to them.

Their blunt imperial smash strategies don't work either anymore, and they don't appear to be accepting that either.
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 No.486031

France just ousted their prime minister.
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 No.486032

>>483723
>Macron dictator for life now
J V P I T E R
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 No.486033

>>486031
Which one ?
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 No.486038

>>486033
Barnier.


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 No.483825[Reply]

In only six months, Sahra Wagenknecht's new party has BTFO'd the remnants of Die Linke and is already the 3rd most popular party in recent German state elections in Thuringia and Saxony. Is she gonna do it, anons? Can Germany be saved after all?
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 No.485961

>>485937
>It never implied anything about the countries them self
It implies that the country is underdeveloped and irrelevant because any important country was pressured into picking a side. What was once called the 2nd world is now called the "axis of evil" (China, Russia, Iran, etc.). What makes such a country so severely underdeveloped is the people who live there which is why you want to be very careful about importing them as migrants.

>Pretty much all socialists subscribe to internationalism.

National Socialists and National Bolsheviks obviously don't. The difference is between politics aimed at a limited geographic area or people vs politics aimed at uniting the globe. Nazi Germany only cared about Germany and the "Aryan" people. The USSR cared about "liberating" all workers of the world regardless of country or race and subsuming all traditional countries into a new communist world order.

>Your understanding of globalism

If you just want to fight your own strawman then don't quote my post id. Find a way to do your ego masturbation without wasting my time.
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 No.485962

>>485961
>It implies that the country is underdeveloped and irrelevant because any important country was pressured into picking a side.
I think this is only half true. The other half is that there are historic precedents of countries doing neutrality successfully. And the neocons seem to get particularly upset about that for some reason. Like their brains only have 2 boxes one for foes and one for friends, and if it doesn't fit in either of these they get upset.
>What makes such a country so severely underdeveloped is the people who live there
Are you shitting on these people for choosing neutrality during the first cold war ?

>What was once called the 2nd world is now called the "axis of evil" (China, Russia, Iran, etc.).

I get what you are saying, but common that slogan is just too unbearable to repeat. Countries as malevolent mechanical linkages ? Why ? That metaphor doesn't make any sense. Who ever came up with that clearly was a nut. Pun intended.

>National Socialists and National Bolsheviks obviously don't.

There only ever was one fascist regime that called it self "socialist", but clearly wasn't. And National Bolsheviks were a tiny party in Russia that only existed briefly during the 90s and nothing ever came of it. So you haven't really contradicted that Socialists are internationalists.

>If you just want to fight your own strawman then don't quote my post id. Find a way to do your ego masturbation without wasting my time.

At first glance this sounds like a personal attack, but on second thought You appear to be indirectly attacking the criticism against multi-nationalism ?
Can you clarify your position on corporate power overriding democratic controle of governments.
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 No.485966

>>485962
>The other half is that there are historic precedents of countries doing neutrality successfully.
Nobody called Switzerland a 3rd world country. Clearly it's just the ones that don't matter.

>Are you shitting on these people for choosing neutrality during the first cold war ?

No I'm shitting on them for being subhuman savages who rape and murder their way through europe right now.

>Countries as malevolent mechanical linkages ? Why ? That metaphor doesn't make any sense.

It's from the point of view of the west, right. Me and my allies are the 1st world. The guys who won't do what we want and are too strong to bully around are the 2nd world (USSR, CCP/Russia, China, Iran) and everyone who doesn't matter is the 3rd world.

>There only ever was one fascist regime that called it self "socialist"

Fascism is just a branch of socialism. The red headed step child you wish didn't exist.
https://libquotes.com/benito-mussolini/quote/lbb5l9y

>At first glance this sounds like a personal attack

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 No.485998

>>485966
>Nobody called Switzerland a 3rd world country. Clearly it's just the ones that don't matter.
Switzerland was considered to be part of the first world. Also the third world countries were influential on the global stage then, and increasingly so in the present. So they always mattered.

>No I'm shitting on them for being subhuman savages who rape and murder their way through europe right now.

There are no subhumans, humanity is a species without any subspecies. Please refrain from fantasy biology.

If you want to argue against immigration because you think that it's increasing labor-competition too much, we can have that discussion. But if you just dehumanize people as "savages", you are not actually trying to prevent the import of immigrant labor, you are trying to create consent to take away the rights of those people so that capitalists can exploit them harder. This is not just ethically objectionable it's also bad for the local workers, because it undermines their bargaining power in the labor market.

If you are angry that social cohesion is breaking down you have to blame the ones at the top, they're the principal cause.

>It's from the point of view of the west, right. Me and my allies are the 1st world.

Nope i still don't get why you think an "axis" is a suitable political metaphor.

Also the people in the west that want to play cold-war with Russia again are not your friends. They are painting a target on our backs and they are stealing public funding that could be used for useful stuff. The opportunity damage they are causing is gigantic. They them selves get rich of this, but for everybody else it's the end of prosperity.
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 No.486008

>>485998
>Also the third world countries were influential on the global stage then, and increasingly so in the present.
Which 3rd world countries do you think are "influential" right now? They are so irrelevant they regularly genocide each other and even the human rights council can barely pretend to care.

>There are no subhumans, humanity is a species without any subspecies. Please refrain from fantasy biology.

I hope you remember that when you meet a gang of military aged african migrants on the street for the first time. It's easy to be pro-shark when you are not swimming in the water.

>you are trying to create consent to take away the rights of those people

They don't have a "right" to be in my country.

>If you are angry that social cohesion is breaking down you have to blame the ones at the top, they're the principal cause.

Again, get back to me when they open a migrant center near your house. Until then you're just virtue signalling from afar.

>Nope i still don't get why you think an "axis" is a suitable political metaphor.

It's not my metaphor, maybe that's the source of confusion.
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 No.485941[Reply]

So the Russians are the first ones to demonstrate, what appears to be a purely or mostly kinetic impact weapon that is rocket-propelled. This thing competes with low yield so called "tactical nukes". Without any of the downsides like radioactive contamination and massive shock-waves.

They destroyed a weapons factory complex and aside from an estimated 100 people that were inside, nobody else died, the surrounding buildings weren't damaged. The decades old promise of doing "surgical strikes" at scale and parity without "collateral damage" seems to have finally been realized.

Given how much more focused the delivery of destructive energy from those impactors are, it's likely more effective at destroying hardened military targets than most nukes. Nukes technically are plasma weapons. And for this new weapon the line between kinetic and energy weapons is beginning to blur a little as well because of the extreme physical conditions during impact.

I would consider this as a strategic deterrent, because it likely can destroy icbm missile silos, air-fields, naval ports/battle-groups and command and controle bunkers. Part of the deterrence effect might also be that the political cost of actually using one is much lower than with nukes.

I also think that they will tag on other functionality, like replacing the 36 impactors that slam into the ground, with an air-to-air variation making hole squadrons of fighters or drones go poof.

There also is the arms-race aspect, i wonder how that will play out.

It might change the political game too. At present the neocons antagonize Russians in order to create a threatening enemy in order to get funding for their schemes. But since this new weapon doesn't really threaten anything that touches the majority of the population, the political effect of the "Russian boogieman" might just fade away. Companies like Black Rock have been lobbying for the Ukraine war, I've been wondering for a long time whether these war-lobbies would get targeted like military eventually, it wasn't really possible, until now.

If WW3 was fought with this type of missile not many people would die, probably less than in many of the currently active wars. People could opt out of WW3, just by avoiding the places that would be strategical targets. So that's why i think it might be a silver bullet.
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 No.485973

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/11/sputnik-2-0-oreshnik-and-the-western-military-capabilities-gap.html

>This post endeavors, at a very high level, to discuss how the US/NATO shortcomings against Russia and the so-called West’s geostrategic competitors, are more foundational than most commentators recognize. This is due at least in part to an onslaught of propaganda maintaining long-standing prejudices against Slavs and non-white countries that industrialized after Europe.1
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 No.485974

>>485971
<Defense as a Service
They got some ballz to try that scam on people with the most guns.
But then again maybe the guns don't work because they can't ping the server that checks for the subscription licenses. The soldiers will have to install a crack to make sure their equipment works.

Maximum late stage capitalism.
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 No.485975

>>485974
It worked with the F-35.

It seems like the natural next step as far as Amerifat procurement goes. They'd have to undo 50 years of government sabotage and corporate/political imbalance in order to go any other direction than "hit the privatization button." I don't think there's any political will for that.
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 No.485995

>>485967
>plasma
Until we figure out plasma instability, we can't make sophisticated plasma configurations like a stable plasma ball.
However a plasma projector that acts like a highly localized shield against most types of weapons is conceivable. Think about a long range sandblaster wearing down incoming weapons fire with ionized particles. But we probably don't have a power-source for that, I'm guessing 200 gigawatts continuous is the barrier to entry for this.

>anti-matter bullets

We can't use anti-matter as the main energy carrier, because we can't make that stuff in quantity, and because we can't do low enough tolerances to make storage reliable enough.
We probably don't want to set off anti-matter explosions anyway since it will cause really nasty highly energetic particle emissions that make the stuff that comes out of nukes look harmless by comparison.

It is more plausible to use a few anti-matter particles as a means to set off a really small fusion reaction, (maybe with an intermediate fission reaction to further economize on anti-matter, which at the moment is the most expensive stuff by a huge margin). You can trap a few anti-matter particles in a magnetic vacuum bottle, if you have good enough or cold enough superconductor material.

There is a somewhat more low-tech way to make "nuclear bullets" small enough even for a regular rifle. It requires synthesizing a specific radio-active fissionable element, so it's not a cheap proposition by any means. And those bullets also would require a lot of cooling so there would be practicality limits of carrying a big ammo refrigeration unit around. If you set it off it would generate mostly gamma radiation but it would be powerful enough to melt a tank into a puddle of molten metal.

I'm not sure where you are going with this, but if i had to guess i'd say you are trying to make weapons munitions really small ? Maybe you can explain your motivation for that ?
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 No.485996

>>485975
>It worked with the F-35.
It worked in the sense that arms producers got rich off this.
However the US had a huge lead in air-power over anybody else and the F35 has shrunk that lead by a considerable amount.

>They'd have to undo 50 years of government sabotage and corporate/political imbalance in order to go any other direction than "hit the privatization button."

I agree that the problem came from privatization, but i don't know what you mean with:
government sabotage
corporate/political imbalance


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this fuckin piece of shit this no good fuckin walking genocidal goiter with hair & teeth
if this piece of shit showed up in my neighborhood I'd shove him in a garbage pail and throw it off the nearest cliff
I'm embarrassed to have even saved his pic for this thread I'm gonna immediately delete it after I post this

What do you think of him, /leftypol/?
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The reality is there was some truth in Great Replacement mythos and Starmer straight up admitted that in his immigration state address yesterday.
My theory has long been that shitlib leftists and Neolibs, have extreme outgroup bias, this means the average liberal and leftist, literally hates white people.
You see that so much with attitudes from shitlibs when talking about white people/native UK/European cultures and you think they are being dumb and histeronic, but what if that actually was forced through as a policy agenda, and that is literally how I think the left came to support open borders, which is generally a very right wing idea, pushed by big corpos and Libertarians and massively opposed historically by Leftists and organised labour. Just seeing the state of the UK, how much of a disaster current immigration policies are and how the left is still so blinkered about Immigration and still talk down on white Britons like they are absolute fucking shit, not to mention the clear attempt to rewrite British history as "black history" and how they basically dont even have white people in commercials anymore or as leads on British dramas. It's hard to come to any other conclusion. For capitalists tho, mass migration is clearly done for various reasons
>Propping up housing Ponzi scheme through artificially increasing GDP through immigration, thus keeping rates artificially low.
>High immigration/diversity = low trust, and low trust societies are less likely to organise and make demands. Ethnic tensions can also be used to tear apart coalitions like we saw the Jewish community use Idpol and Labours Muslim support to kill the Labour left.
>High immigration = more pressure on wages through competition creating deflation. This is why unions call immigrant labour "scab labour".
>>485909
One of the most bizarre aspects of UK immigration. Why is it near impossible to immigrate from Canada, Australia etc oh have 30k in savings, oh pay 10k for the NHS, oh pay 10k in fees, rejected no refunds fuck you. Where if you immigrate from the Carribbean or Pakistan or India, you are basically railroaded right in, put in a council flat and put on 20k of bennies a year? Wtf?
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>>485917
>shitlib leftists and Neolibs, have extreme outgroup bias
They are just ultra-conformists with no moral principles. They want to be "good" people and the media tells them that "good" people support reckless immigration and the ukraine war and vaccines and masks and lockdowns and "trans rights" and BLM and all the other current thing.

>Propping up housing Ponzi scheme through artificially increasing GDP through immigration, thus keeping rates artificially low.

Immigration adds artificial demand on housing, especially when the government is using taxes stolen from workers to pay for the immigrant housing. They don't need an excuse to keep interest rates low and nobody cares about madeup government numbers like GDP and CPI.

>High immigration/diversity = low trust

You can't have economic growth when people are too busy worrying about getting raped and murdered by 3rd world savages they don't have time to work and consume. Not to mention what's the point of working hard to buy nice things when a uyghur is just going to steal it from you and the police does nothing because they don't want to be called racist. If anything this is an argument for why the goal of mass immigration is to destroy capitalism.

>High immigration = more pressure on wages through competition creating deflation

These immigrants are not working though. We don't have sweatshops or coalmines to cram them into and extract value from them. What the fuck do you think a gang of 70lq somalis who don't speak english are going to do in an advanced western economy? The only reason they are here is because the government is giving them free food and housing. There is no capitalist justification for this. Capitalism would throw them their bodies into a furnace for fuel.
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>>485919
>shitlib leftists and Neolibs, have extreme outgroup bias
<They are just ultra-conformists with no moral principles.
They are the exact same people who would have extreme ingroup bias if they lived in 1930s Germany.
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>>485909
>I don't see them working.
Are you really this stupid?

The idea that immigrants don't work is one of the weirdest lies people keep repeating until folks believe it. What, do you follow every one of these people around? It's so bizarre. It's like you think they order these fucking people off Amazon and they were all made in a factory and they're all exactly the same.

Most immigrants do work, and the cheap labor is the single biggest large-scale problem.

>>485917
>Where if you immigrate from the Carribbean or Pakistan or India, you are basically railroaded right in, put in a council flat and put on 20k of bennies a year? Wtf?
Maybe you're confused because the thing you're assuming is happening in this paragraph is not actually what is happening.

>My theory has long been that shitlib leftists and Neolibs, have extreme outgroup bias, this means the average liberal and leftist, literally hates white people.

Or maybe it's Santa Claus & his team of Christmas Gremlins doing it to piss you off personally. Did you ever think of that?

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>>485919
>They are just ultra-conformists with no moral principles. They want to be "good" people and the media tells them that "good" people support reckless immigration
>source: a strawman the media gave me

>Immigration adds artificial demand on housing,

So do landlords buying up & holding land & buildings lol. You don't actually need an extra supply of people to increase housing demand or reduce supply. The necessity of immigrants to land speculation schemes is pretty questionable, you're both putting forth explanations which don't hold up particularly well, immigrants are not necessary to inflate land prices.

>If anything this is an argument for why the goal of mass immigration is to destroy capitalism.

… with influxes of cheap labor and an inundation of the public with divisive idpol narratives which frame neoliberal foreign policy & economic policy as a culture clash between races rather than as the will of the rich being imposed upon everyone else?
This is an old, old playbook.

>These immigrants are not working though.

>source: I made it up


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