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 No.484519[Reply]

what is to be done about the masses of sheeple who always do whatever the empire tells them to do? how are we supposed to organize in solidarity with vaxies who support vax mandates? how am I supposed to deal with people who vote in support of genocidal zionist politicians like Harris, Trump, and Kennedy even though it's clear they are screwing their own voters regardless? what are we supposed to do about the brainwashed, bloodthirsty psychos who support the global 4th reich?
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 No.484573

Hypnotherapy is not a trivial thing. It is impossible to undo the damage by any re-education. There is only managing the livestock once it takes root. No "awakening" changes this once they internalize this many lies, in the way they were made to do so.
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 No.484574

That said, compliance is no longer an option, and all of the compliance with COVID was premised on fear and marking down the enemies of the "Jehad". It was inevitable after what you allowed to happen in the 1990s. The eugenists brag that you were operating the death camps and couldn't stop them. A Satanic race cannot change.
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 No.484586

Propaganda is a helluva drug, but good teaching and persuasion principles apply here. Use the Socratic Method, lean into evidence whenever possible, develop a habit of tactfully reminding people when their assertions haven't been supported enough to be arguments. When someone realizes that they can't support their own beliefs in a friendly, non-confrontational setting, that's when the conditioning starts to break down.
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 No.484590

Have you consodered tgat most sheeple are "truthseekers" like you and hence why theyre the easiest to dupe?

The game of mass deception is avhievable because of "alternative" media.
Most "alternative" media spreads the same biases as their respective mainstream counterparts.

In fact, alot of alternative news media are indirectly corporately owned.

Even if not, most "truthseekers" are unable to read further than pop culture cliches.
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 No.484919

>>484586
I've found more common ground with conservative and libertarians than the liberal types where I live. Libs will smugly and self-righteously support literal fascism and talking to them has been largely a waste of my time and a test of my patience.


 No.484817[Reply]

Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov speaking at the UN General Assembly just recently. Pretty good speech imo. What do you think?
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 No.484859

>>484839
cope
They lie a little like re-labeling war as a "special military operation" but they're right about the big picture stuff, like NATO-east-expansion being the trigger for the war in Ukraine.
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 No.484870

>>484859
His critiques of the west are generally the strongest points.
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 No.484880

>>484839
This is how Democrats unironically think.
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 No.484890

>some cuck is getting paid 0.01 cents for making threads like this
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 No.484908

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>>484890
>thinking I get paid to post news to leftychan


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 No.483702[Reply]

theory background, skip if you wish
In the cold war the Soviets had a closed media ecosystem with state censors etc. The materialist reason for that is, that their media production could neither match the quantity of output nor the level of technical sophistication of western media production.

The functional aspect of Soviet censorship was doing protectionism. The repression of expression-freedom of soviet citizens was not functional, it likely hampered the development of the means of media production. It likely worked only because the boost from protectionism more than off-set the drag from repression of expression.

This is what most ideological analysis got wrong. What matters is the structures that transport the information and the type of social relations that create the interaction with people. The specifics of the information never mattered.

In feudalism the information structure was the church. The specifics of religious faith, didn't really matter for the functioning of feudalism. The change from feudalism to capitalism changed information from a indoctrinated believe, into a object that is consumed.

We lack any concept of what the socialist information structure could be like. We haven't really thought beyond changing the information content. When the printing presses automated writing, capitalists printed information on paper squares arranged as either news-papers or as books. Socialists only ever did the exact same paper-squares with different words on it. Same thing for every subsequent media technology. That's why socialists have always been on the back-foot. It's like if the bourgeoisie had tried to edit the ten commandments in the bible. Instead of replacing the church with modern media.

Now for the juicy bit
The west is ramping up attempts at censorship. Ranging from deleting content up to attacking the people that make it, as well as attacking capitalists that own means of dissemination. The West has/had a relatively open media ecosystem as well as very high production media quality, and that is the combined reason why it's media structures have absolutely dominated the world.

For unclear reasons they're now trying to throw out the winning strategy and close off the western media eco-system. If it succeeds the global audience would get alienated out of it, and then western media power will shrink from influencing ~4 billion to maybe a few hundrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.484825

>>484824
thanks for the reverse psychology approval
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 No.484828

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The company you keep…
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 No.484830

>>484828
Is she doing this on purpose ?

As in is she playing the evil censorship-witch to make people hate her, because negative attention is better than no attention ?
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 No.484851

>>484830
Probably.
But everyone complains about censorship but then will advocate for censorship against platforms they don't like

Ogre is praising Turkey for passing a ban for fbi.gov
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 No.484852

>>484851
>Ogre is praising Turkey for passing a ban for fbi.gov
Wait a minute Ogre is still up ?
I just went there to check and it just redirected me to leftypol TV
What gives ?

Why is Turkey banning discuck ?
I mean it's got terrible privacy and there's better alternatives, but it seems unreasonable to ban it.

I'm guessing they're anxious about the people who own/controle discuck ? Why aren't they shilling for an open-source alternative where they can run their own servers. Or they could go one step further and hire software-people to fork one of those FOSS alternatives and call it Turk-cord. They could add lots of specific features the Turkish people really like. They could make all Turkish governmental organizations sign up for it and incentivize Turkish companies to do too, to boost network effects.

What ever happened to using intelligence to win people over. I think we need to redesign the internet so that it's not vulnerable to the inquisition that tries to excommunicate everybody they don't like, So that people who build cool stuff are those that win.


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 No.484738[Reply]

Femicide in Turkey is on the rise. Yesterday, a person (aged 19) killed two women in one day, one of them was killed by cutting off her head and throwing it down from the top of the historical city walls in Istanbul, and then he committed committed suicide. What is your opinion?
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 No.484747

>>484741
A trend is when 2 people out of millions do something horrible to 2 other people out of millions and then I indulge in a moral panic about it as though it's happening all the time to everybody in that context.
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 No.484753

Wow, so two random murder by a disturbed person. Let us know when you have evidence for an actual trend.
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 No.484762

Some faggot incel that unfortunately took more lives than just his, I wouldnt call it a trend or even novel
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 No.484799

>>484738
>Femicide is on the rise
Based. The lesser beings who are still divided sexually do not deserve their place in the universe. Keep murderraping each other huemies.
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 No.484801

Korean incels stand on business


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 No.484673[Reply]

I was recently researching the public housing projects of fascist Italy. There's been entire books written about how early fascist regimes mirrored New Deal policy that is now considered "far-left" in America. Italian fascists dramatically increased public housing that existed prior.

In a way though, this potentially makes contemporary America maybe even more right-wing than fascist Italy in practice for the average person. US is certainly not more than right-wing than Nazi Germany was, but it may be moreso than fascist Italy.

Here in the USA, we've more or less abandoned the idea of ensuring that people aren't underhoused. This can only be achieved from public housing. Housing is a basic human need on par with food, as participation in public life and even reproduction are very difficult without it, especially with accompanying cultural values which portrays life as a game to collect points to afford housing.
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 No.484678

Also you can't hide, like… the fact that you own a plot of land. It's way easier to cover up income than it is to cover up land ownership. If you own a whole lot of land and holding it vacant costs way more than you'd get by waiting a decade and selling it, then you'll have a market suddenly flooded with cheap houses.
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 No.484683

>>484677
You know that George's land tax was partially meant to fund George's vision of public housing, right?
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 No.484691

>Is contemporary American politics more right-wing than Italian fascism?
Yes, it's literal Nazi tier.
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 No.484692

>>484683
Henry George supported a Land-Tax Funded Citizens' Dividend and the nationalization of natural monopolies, but I don't remember anything about public housing. I wouldn't be totally shocked if he proposed it, but I don't recall that. I'm not opposed to public housing, but the economic effect of Georgist tax policy would already drive prices down greatly, and the citizens' dividend would give the average person more financial security. We literally have enough buildings, they could solve the housing crisis with tax reform without building a single additional structure, but they won't do either.
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 No.484703

>>484677
>the idea, if you're a landlord and treating it as an investment, is to be able to hold those properties for an extended period of time until the market price grows up.
It's not the price "going up", it's the currency being debased by your communist central bank. People hold hard assets to protect themselves from inflation not to make a "profit".

>This artificially increases scarcity

Correct. Although the real solution is to have hard money which cannot be inflated by political entities and then people don't need to hog hard assets like land and houses.

>>484678
>Also you can't hide, like… the fact that you own a plot of land.
That's not necessarily true there is a whole book about this called Who Owns England. The British aristocracy have been using land to evade taxes and inheritance bullshit for centuries.

>If you own a whole lot of land and holding it vacant costs way more than you'd get by waiting a decade and selling it, then you'll have a market suddenly flooded with cheap houses.

Land is not the same thing as houses. We don't have a land shortage we have a housing shortage. Government regulations, unstable currency and high cost of labor all make it very difficult to turn a profit from building houses so nobody bothers building them. And don't forget your open borders, refugees welcome, multikulti virtue signaling bullshit is also artificially increasing demand.


 No.484492[Reply]

Glenn Greenwald is asking some really good questions lately.
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 No.484495

I like Glenn but I can only take him in small doses because of that valley girl accent of his.
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 No.484496

>>484492
>Who Is Sending More U.S. Troops To The Middle East?
Who ever it is, they do not appear to be acting very strategical.
Getting bogged down in middle eastern wars, hasn't worked out so well.

>>484495
Yeah but you can get over it
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 No.484693

Another great question from Greenwald.


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 No.481695[Reply]

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=Z7n6kl-tLjY

Assange wins his appeal against extradition
But he's not out of the woods yet.
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 No.481851

>>481838
Absolute monarchs used to torture their critics too, it did not help them stay in power. They might have traded embarrassment of whistleblower revelations for something much worse. The concept of making the state compliant to criticism wasn't a naive aspirational virtue, it was a shrewd strategical adaptation after absolute monarchies broke down. What they have done is preserve the position of some careerists at the expense of institutional integrity.

People who are competent and want to get stuff done, seek out organizations that are benevolent and likely to illicit voluntary cooperation from others. Malevolent organizations are sought by bullies that want to get away with bullying.

Assange was very mindful to not release information that could do serious damage, by exercising revenge, they may have incentivized the next guy to do as much damage as possible as to destroy the ability to take revenge. Keep in mind that they did send a message, but it wasn't interpreted uniformly. Intimidation may elicit compliance by some, but to others it signals weakness.

Investigative journalism was never a detriment to state-power. It kept the base and the superstructure in alignment, damaging journalism was foolish and bad statecraft.

Like when Blinken blamed social media and implies
<when we controlled the media we could do genocide in peace.
He doesn't seem to understand the causal connection. People turned away from mainstream media first in order for alternatives to become possible. If they hadn't gone down the drain, people wouldn't have tuned out.
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 No.481855

>>481851
>Assange was very mindful to not release information that could do serious damage
Here's what actually happened with the Iraq War Logs: Assange was up for several days redacting before release to avoid information that might get informants killed, and then some worms at The Guardian published a book with the password to the unredacted files. This prompted Cryptome (which doesn't believe in redacting leaks) to release the entire set of files unredacted, to which Wikileaks responded by removing the (now pointless) redactions on their own releases. That's only the story for the Iraq War Logs. I'm not aware of any redaction done to later Wikileaks releases, and you better believe the Vault7 leaks were damaging as fuck to the CIA. It's what prompted them to plot assassination and eventually forced Assange out of the embassy.
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 No.481856

>>481855
>Assange was up for several days redacting before release to avoid information that might get informants killed.
So even if shit got out later, Assange clearly acted in good faith.

>and you better believe the Vault7 leaks were damaging as fuck to the CIA.

Idk, a public release is far from the worst scenario. The CIA gets to see that too and realize what's compromised, and likely react fast enough to do a lot of damage controle. If somebody wanted to inflict more damage they would release the information that compromises operational security to the CIA's opponents but not the public.

>It's what prompted them to plot assassination and eventually forced Assange out of the embassy.

IMHO going after Assange was not rational, it confirmed the accuracy of the information, the rational thing to do was to deny that the released information was authentic. As a spy agency the best thing is secrecy, the second best thing is ambiguity.
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 No.484648

So Assange went back to Europe to speak about his case to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe today. He's surprisingly sharp after years in solitary confinement. He mentioned journalists killed in Gaza and Ukraine several times. Aside from Gonzalo Lyra I'm not aware of any other journalists who have been targeted in Ukraine.
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 No.484654

>>484648
>He's surprisingly sharp
I wasn't surprised about that tbh, but yes his intellect hasn't been diminished by the ordeal.

>He mentioned journalists killed in Gaza and Ukraine several times. Aside from Gonzalo Lyra I'm not aware of any other journalists who have been targeted in Ukraine.

I think that might be a language bias. Lyra probably was one of the few that published in English. Most of the journalists there probably were Ukrainian and they published in their local language. But yeah the Zelensky regime went fascist, they banned most of the media, abandoned any pretense of democracy when they stopped doing elections, and they're basically snatching people off the streets, usually for military conscription but also political persecution. So they probably murdered a bunch of regime critical journalists too.


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 No.484619[Reply]

Is there a posad guy here? What is posadism?
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 No.484620

It's the result of a Communist (Posadas) getting tortured by anti-Communist fascists. The Posadist meme is therefore ableist.
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 No.484645

There's a whole board >>>/posad/
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 No.484647

Posadism is disproven by the fact that nuclear weapons have been tested and used for nearly 80 years and we've had no communist ET contact
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 No.484649

>>484647
A blink of the eye in astronomical distances. Aliens 80 lights years away would just now be receiving evidence that nukes have gone off on Earth. If they decide to contact us in less than another 80 years they'll need faster-than-light space travel.


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 No.484609[Reply]

I think Antarctica should be annexed to Russia, China or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
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 No.484614

I think the whole world should be annexed to Deez nuts
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 No.484617

>>484610
Russia because they already know how to live in cold obviously.

China and best Korea because you want workplace democracy and the liberty of privacy that's only guaranteed in a workers' state because you're living and working in Antarctica.
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 No.484618

How hard would it be to organize workers in Antarctica? Could it be the first truly communist landmass?
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 No.484659

>>484610
There are likely valuable resources in and around Antarctica. However, controlling these territories requires complete naval dominance, a capability that only the U.S. possesses.
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 No.484800

>>484609
Antarctica is 4 white bears people
Fake jucheoid face the wall race traitor


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 No.484467[Reply]

One retarded thing the left does more than the right is watermark memes with ownership. By placing who made it in either a corner or watermark. If a meme is good don't try to own it just let it free. It's supposedly about the idea, not about you.
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 No.484473

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 No.484476

>>484467
You can always edit the meme if you don't like it, you know the clone-tool has been standard in most image-editing softwares for like 20 years.
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 No.484479

truthnuke
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