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 No.478517[Reply]

>The view of biology often presented to the public is oversimplified and out of date. Scientists must set the record straight, argues a new book.
>For too long, scientists have been content in espousing the lazy metaphor of living systems operating simply like machines, says science writer Philip Ball in How Life Works. Yet, it’s important to be open about the complexity of biology — including what we don’t know — because public understanding affects policy, health care and trust in science. “So long as we insist that cells are computers and genes are their code,” writes Ball, life might as well be “sprinkled with invisible magic”. But, reality “is far more interesting and wonderful”, as he explains in this must-read user’s guide for biologists and non-biologists alike.
>When the human genome was sequenced in 2001, many thought that it would prove to be an ‘instruction manual’ for life. But the genome turned out to be no blueprint. In fact, most genes don’t have a pre-set function that can be determined from their DNA sequence.
>Instead, genes’ activity — whether they are expressed or not, for instance, or the length of protein that they encode — depends on myriad external factors, from the diet to the environment in which the organism develops. And each trait can be influenced by many genes. For example, mutations in almost 300 genes have been identified as indicating a risk that a person will develop schizophrenia…..
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00327-x

Genetics is pseudoscience.
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 No.478580

>>478561
DNA is real enough - you can detect it in a lab. Eugenics jumped on that to make a claim that it is the "gene", which anyone who paid attention to the heredity "debate" would tell you is not what heredity "is". Eugenics has to do this because the claims of eugenics are to control life at all of its levels, from gradle to grave. It can't do anything else, and so this discovery of chromosomes and material was declared to be "genetic material" and the entirety of such. The material is inherited - that is what life does when it reproduces - but it doesn't conform to this political conceit that "genes are destiny" or that heredity works in the way their stupid cult believes it does. This has always been known, but the victory of the cult insists it can never be wrong across all generations. The point of the "debate" is to make all discussion about life and its nature a recapitulation of the eugenic creed, and for no other concept of existence to be admitted. At first this is confirmed to a pseudoscientific clique, but it does not take long for it to dominate all other institutions, all other concepts of science, until there is no longer an act of "science" in the genuine sense - only pedagogy and the barking of edicts from the ivory tower.

What you can do with DNA is some low level chemistry, but to this day, scientists editing DNA are cut-and-pasting fragments and kind of hoping it works. If you designed any machine or computer program - "coded" - like that, you'd be laughed out of the room. But, eugenics must assert this and asserts it violently. In no other science or engineering problem would religious zeal be invoked to "believe the Science". Eugenics must do this because it is committed to ultraviolence, and it has always been a scam. If their theory of "genes are destiny" had the predictive power it possesses, then engineering life from base components should be trivial - it wouldn't be a "life hack", but straight up "here is some carbon, hydrogen, and osygen, now we can make life as we please". You might be able to do this, except life to be "life" is never really about substance or forms. It is always shown in functions - how the materials move to allow life to do anything at all. There is no substance "life" that you can find in a lab, and this is what the eugenists and German idealists always violently recapitulate, to defend their faPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.478583

>>478561
And the point I'm trying to get at with DNA is that it doesn't mean anything the cult believes it means. You could use DNA as a marker of heredity or to identify someone on record, ask where it came from. Even here though, DNA has been known to change during life, leading to the absurd belief that "genetic damage" is possible - literally an impossibility if you understand what "genesis" means. Here is where that old Germanic racism and volkisch faggotry comes in to shit up any discussion about what is happening, and they always jump in front if anyone calls bullshit on eugenics. Always. They don't want anyone interfering with The Plan or The Secret.

If humanity were not fucktarded, discovering DNA should have put the genetic myth to bed for good, and would probably be a step towards describing life-functions accurately for the first time. We may, out of necessity, find a way out of this nightmare yet. To really get over this though would require an elaborate deconstruction of the entire biopolitical myth, and ultimately the foundational, day zero myths of the human race, and if that happened, humanity in any recognizable form ends. It could not survive if all of the myths aristocracy told to prop itself up were eliminated, and aristocracy has no "backup plan". They are by their nature tied to the conditions of genesis, and cannot adapt to a world where genesis is rightly regarded as humans, like all things, rising from the muck. They can't stand that, and this is often their description of fascism - that Hitler is bad because he "rose from the muck", never mind that Hitler and those like him were thoroughly bourgeois in their constitution. It's not about Hitler doing terrible things or enabling others to do so, but because Hitler's background was unacceptable to the conceits of those who held the institutions. Hitler, being intelligent enough to see an opening and acting on orders of social engineers aligned with him, weaponized this animosity so that elements that believed they were left out could join an echo chamber and maximize their faggotry. Such is how the eugenic creed spreads, and once they taste that blood, there is no going back.
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 No.478584

>>478564
It's not just pretense - if you dig up family trees, you will eventually find some noble you're descended from. Kings got around a lot. The success rate at reproducing for men has never been much more than half in practice, and when men are cucks, it's not hard to see, nor have men really expected it was going to be any other way. If not for the fear that was instilled by society, the majority of men would opt out of the reproductive rat race entirely, because it's clear nobody wants them and they don't have any really good argument as to why they should sire children rather than some other asshole. It's not so much that children are a pain, but what the dominant institutions do to fathers or would-be fathers is designed to make the situation intolerable. No woman will ever seriously entertain the idea that it's going to be different or should be, even if they don't like the situation and are told they have to mate with slimy aristocrats. That's how the game really works. It's disgusting. Eugenics relies on maximizing the rot of this because it's a useful vehicle for inflicting suffering and creating the conditions of eugenics, where before, at the end of the day any penis or vagina would do and there wasn't that much of a selection to choose from. It's no secret that the upper class have already moved to artsem and surrogates, and clamor for the eggs of college females. They're getting rid of the family of old and the pretenses aren't going to survive much longer. Why would it? Everything about this society is designed to make an already terrible task of reproduction into something so nightmarish that death would be preferable. I don't know if it comes across to you all how horrifying it is to hear "DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE" shouted exultantly and the repeated death threats I receive, that I'm told is not just normal but upstanding behavior when they do it. It's all so Satanic, and after enough of it, you do get the sense that humanity should collectively self-terminate and draw down their numbers to the barest minimum necessary to ensure the cycle doesn't restart. That wouldn't be about eugenics or the death cult though - it would be a necessary reaction, the final action, to end the nightmare forever, so that we can have the thing that we wanted in the first place. Most of humanity will fade from the world, finding whatever they were going to find andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.478586

>>478584
>It's not just pretense - if you dig up family trees, you will eventually find some noble you're descended from. Kings got around a lot.
Of course it's pretense, Kings didn't have political power because of biology.
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 No.478607

>>478586
They make their temporal claims first into hereditary claims, and then create a spiritual authority around heredity. Biology proper has nothing to do with any "essences of life", but monarchy and aristocracy both have reasons to insinuate such things exist. What isn't doubted is that kings leave their mark on the world, usually by creating offspring and laughing at the peasant whose wife lines up to get fucked. Further, kings produced quite a few princes and princesses, who would eventually filter to the lower orders, with all of the luxuries inherited wealth allowed them to win the reproductive and social game.

It is an enduring myth that merit is based on moral goodness or civic worth, especially under eugenism. The merit of the proprietor is always whatever secures his property, whatever that may be. The merit of the aristocrat is the games of fuckery and double dealing that mark their class, or the influence of those who follow the aristocratic lead and aristocratic thought. None of this is about anything productive or useful - usually it is the exact opposite. Proprietors only want to produce as little as they need to continue holding their interests, and find useful that which is expedient towards that end. Aristocrats don't want to produce anything at all, and see it as their mission to police the proprietors and take all of their stuff, so it can be wasted on some lurid elite cult.


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 No.472003[Reply]

You gotta have thick steel barrier to your brain if you ever wish to become a communist. You must be able to see right through bourgeois ideology and mystification. Ask yourself the very simple question: does their analysis start of from the world as something existing outside us, or does their analysis suppose some idea outside the material world influencing it?

To combat bourgeois ideology you need to be a proper materialist. Read the philosophical works of Feurebach, Dietzgen, Engels, Lenin. Become a dialectical materialist - never fall into metaphysics or eclecticism, товариши.
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 No.472074

>>472061
You don't have to be a physics researcher. Entropy being what's causing the arrow of time can be found in any summary of thermodynamics. The second law of thermodynamics is more or less the only thing in physics that's not time symmetric. Everything else works the same both ways forward or backward in time. The alternative explanations are wacky. Like our universe needing a twin universe where time flows into the opposite direction.

But you don't really need physics to explain why materialism is correct. Thoughts only originate in brains and perhaps future intelligent computers. All thinkers are made out of matter, if thoughts and ideas could exist without matter, there would be evidence of immaterial thinkers, but there isn't any.

I sometimes think that there is a solipsistic impulse behind philosophical idealism. If matter is primary and ideas secondary, your personal thoughts and ideas can't be the center of the universe anymore.
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 No.472968

>>472038
>nature has no empirically observable contradictions
>nature has no empirically observable resolved contradictions
????
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 No.478510

>>472033
tbh I think its more mutual.
Men attach themselves to young nubile women.

Chivalry is the institutional channeling of male hubris in the nameof "defending the honor of maidens".
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 No.478511

>>472018
Men are sentimental beings that use logic.

Women are logical beings that use emotions.

Women only need to be be young and pretty and play hard to get in order to get mens attention.
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 No.478512

>>472027
Both are right.
Women are beautiful but mainly due to biological impulses.

Men can be beautiful too, but society doesnt allow male beauty to be normalised.


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 No.467207[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/san-francisco-decide-black-reparations-plan-5m-person-rcna74873
Cope and seethe CHUDs anti idpolers kek
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 No.467983

>>467981
>technocratic
If you were to dial back the schizophrenic conspiracy theories a tiny bit and apply a materialist analysis, I'd actually agree with the part of technocratic managerialism being the dominant/emergent MoP today.
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 No.467984

>>467980
Reparations are something you demand after a war, not as a sop given decades after the fact. Everything I read about serious reparations proposals suggested a transfer of wealth from those who were financial beneficiaries of slavery to the ex-slaves; that is, the slave interest that used to be tied to finance in America. It was the language of people who were contesting the commanding heights of finance, rather than a "gimme" to the slaves.

If we wanted to set a situation right, or make it as good as we could, we would recognize what was done with slavery; but if we did that, we would see immediately the continuation of the slave power up to the present day, and it would be a question that went beyond the racist slavery and racism today. It would attack things which still rule to this day, and that was a bridge too far.

Of course, all of this talk elides what is obvious to us - the republic, or what's left of it, is a grotesque failure, and we have made the concept of either political or social equality impossible in the present society. If you don't have that, any talk about "racial justice" is nonsensical. The oppressor of the ghetto today isn't something in the distant past or some inchoate force that says you're a failure if you look a certain way. If you go to the street and see what daily life is like, and the political machinations at work, people in the ghetto can tell you sources of their woes, the forces supplying drugs and so on. It's not a great secret that crack was seeded in the cities by certain interests - and it came out during Iran-Contra, and subsequently memory holed by the power of Reagan's contagious Alzheimer's.
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 No.467985

>>467983
You wouldn't know what is material at this point. I don't even know what you're objection is, except to emotional associations you make and your infantile attachment to Satanic morality. You just want things to be "truthy" and somehow reconcile every analysis with your favored ruling ideas, which happen to protect you. It's selfish and faggotty.
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 No.478464

>>467265
this.
theres no such thing as innocent victims in the grand scheme of things
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 No.478465

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Slavery in America is not some thing of the past, there's more of it today than ever:

https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e


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 No.477181[Reply]

https://www.billboard.com/pro/reggaeton-lawsuit-copyright-infringement-entire-genre/

<When the case was first filed, few people took notice. But the lawsuit quickly grew. By September 2022, the lawsuit had ballooned: More than 150 total defendant-artists, accused of releasing a staggering 1,800 infringing songs. In the most recent version of the complaint, filed in April, it takes a full 25 pages to list out all of the defendants


<“This case is jaw-dropping — the plaintiffs are suing over a hundred artists for over a thousand songs, 30 years after the release of their song,” says Jennifer Jenkins, a professor at Duke University School of Law who has written a history of musical borrowing and regulation. “If they win, this would confer a monopoly over an entire genre, something unprecedented in music copyright litigation.”


Tldr: there's a copyrape lawsuit where 2 copy-rapists are trying to copyrape a rythm. There aren't that many possible permutations for rythms in Music, so copyraping something like that can grant legal terror against an entire music-genre.

This lawsuit would at first only kill a genre called reggaeton, but if the precedent is set it might infect the rest of music as well. Worst case scenario is a single copy-rapist claiming most permutations of musical rythms and thus copyraping all music to death.

I wonder if this behaves like a rubber-band, and if they stretch it to far it will snap.
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 No.477194

As much as I hate reggaeton, this is some fucking bullshit and those claimants can go to hell.
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 No.477211

>>477194
>this is some fucking bullshit
That it is, indeed.
Also a mask-off moment, it clearly demonstrates that Intellectual monopolies are born from malicious intent.

>those claimants can go to hell.

They just might.
If this goes far enough and makes enough waves, many more people will wake up to the fact that so called """copyright""" is in reality, intellectual liberty infringement.
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 No.478397

>>477211
>They just might. If this goes far enough and makes enough waves, many more people will wake up to the fact that so called """copyright""" is in reality, intellectual liberty infringement.

Idk. People will still see copyrught as potential revenue generators.
But they will reb against bullshit loke "copyraping."
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 No.478415

>>477211
>intellectual liberty infringement.
we have to meme this concept into existence

>>478397
>Idk. People will still see copyrught as potential revenue generators.
Even from a capitalist perspective it's shit.

The best business-model is ransom-release.
Step_1 split your piece of "content" into demo/teaser-material and main-material.
Step_2 upload the demo/teaser online
Step_3 lock the main-material behind a ransom-pay-bucket
Step_4 When enough people have contributed to the ransom-bucket to cross your revenue-threshold, the main-material releases as creative commons or public domain.

The benefits are
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 No.478379[Reply]

Does anyone have that salvation council general milley meme, I can never find it when I wanna use it. Figured I’d make a thread in case anyone else has any other memes they can’t find either
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 No.478380

I wanted to request a meme but I forgot..


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 No.478160[Reply]

I just heard about the resume of the newly named CEO of NPR, and it has to be seen to be believed. I've never seen someone with a resume that glowed this bright.

>2002-2003: The American University in Cairo, Arabic Language Institute, Arabic Language Intensive Program (ALIN)

<2004: Intensive Arabic Program at the Institut français (Ifpo) in Damascus, Syria, a university funded by the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs
>2004-2005: Council on Foreign Relations
<2005: Eurasia Group, whose leadership include Gerald Butts of the WWF and Cliff Kupchan, who worked in the State Department during the Clinton administration as deputy coordinator of US assistance to Eurasia
>2005-2007: HSBC, International Manager in London, Germany, and Canada
<2007-2010: Founding member of UNICEF "Innovation and Communication Officer" in communication, advocacy, and youth organizing
>2010-2011: "Information and communications technology (ICT)" Program Officer at National Democratic Institute (NDI) in Washington, DC
<2012: Security Fellow at Truman National Security Project
>2011-2013: "ICT" specialist at The World Bank in Washington, DC
<2012-2013: THINK school of leadership, a school for "developing creative leaders to solve global challenges", funded as a partnership of the Dutch government, Vodafone, McKinsey & Company, KLM Airlines, and other private entities. Its leadership includes Esther Wojcicki of Creative Commons. Esther Wojcicki is the mother of Susan Wojcicki, former husband of Google founder Sergey Brin and owner of DNA company 23andme, whose stated mission is to harness personal genetic information to advance research.
>2013-2014: Advocacy Director at Access Now, an organization discussed below
<2014-2022: Wikimedia Foundation
>2020: Council on Foreign Relations
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 No.478272

>>478269
Only using infographics to justify their contempt for women and brown people.

Otherwose, they whine about Wikipedia being " 'lefty' by nature".
(You know how rightists confuse leftism woth liberalism)
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 No.478289

>>478254
Wikipedia feels like something ripe for replacement by a federated alternative. There are already independent, specialized Wikis which can often be better than Wikipedias articles on the subject.
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 No.478316

>>478289
The question of who owns and controls the servers doesn't really address why Wikipedia is so bad. Wikipedia's biggest problems all stem from its fundamentally broken governance structure and contribution rules, which strongly favor corporate media stances over facts and evidence and give factions with the resources to employ large numbers of occupational users (state actors, corporate PR departments, etc.) the ability to control articles and topic areas by overwhelming non-occupational contributors.
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 No.478351

look its literally npr, USA state media. yes its propaganda and its run by propagandists. thanks for pointing out the obvious.
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 No.478377

>>478316
What I had in mind was something more akin to a non-centrally owned Fandom. Get rid of Wikipedia as a singular repository of knowledge and embrace a decebtralized, well-networked, diverse, and even redundant wikisphere.


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 No.453832[Reply]

I'm really enjoying all of the videogame journalists pissing and shidding themselves over the gold rush game publishers are in over NFTs.

Practically every major publisher is promising to integrate NFTs into games and some like Sega, are already selling them now.

One legitimate criticism of NFTs are their environmental impact. But every media talking head that brings this up never spoke out against the Iraq War that irradiated entire cities with depleted uranium munitions, or the Pentagon, who is the number single emitter of greenhouse gases.

So I'm with the crypto bros on this one say this is sour grapes on people that missed out on the ground floor of this get-rich-quick scheme.

I also see this as anger from the burger settler class who are now really getting priced out of the middle class lifestyle in earnest to the point where their steady diet of new videogames may soon be out of their reach. As someone who grew up poor and was always priced out of these type of consumerist leisure goods I relish their anguish.

Another example of this is when Settlers (read white people) shidded themselves over Disney's new $2000 a night Stars Wars themed hotel. As they rightfully saw this as a new trend in Disneyland Theme Parks where they will soon only cater to the 1%. I never got to go to Disneyland when I was young and was told by these same Settlers that I shouldn't be upset because I can live without it. Ironically, it's them who will now live without it while I can actually still afford to go.

And game journalists are particularly hypocritical because we've seen none scarce digital goods sold for 20+ years now, first with iTunes, and then with Amazon with books, and later Steam with games. No one every questioned the environmental impact of these systems.

Overall I think NFTs will be a net good for the proletariat, it will provide a second hand market of digital goods that proles have already spent billions on, and put a lot of equity in their pocket.
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 No.478314

>>454455
>Anyway, RPGs are timewaster games for shut-ins and losers. Hiroshi Yamauchi was right to call them so when berating people who didn't like the lack of RPGs on N64. They're really games for children / tweens, not grown-ass people.
"grown-ass people" are fucking SLAVES, retard.

Imagine not being a fucking shut-in if you get the opportunity.

I want other people to be at the distance of an internet connection - that's the only way they can be tolerable.
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 No.478315

>>478314
Iromy is, adults waste their free rime on TV.

Yet they still berate kids for playing vieo games.

Also, kids are slaves too.
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 No.478352

>>478311
>munee kums frum sumware
das rite butt runnin a website's mightee cheap 4 most normhoes at small skalz.
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 No.478356

>>478352
Opsec 100
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 No.478359

>>478358
don't do identity-politics baiting


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 No.467032[Reply]

Prologue
Noam Chomsky has a principle that he will only criticize his government (the US government in his case). His reason is guarding against co-optation, he doesn't want the chorus of reactionary intellectuals that manufacture consent for the powers that be, to be able to use anything that he writes or says for their sinister purposes. I think the Chomsky principle is largely correct but it's too strict, i think that you can criticize other governments as long as they aren't on the official LE-BIG-BAD list. So based on that you can criticize countries like Saudi Arabia or Israel, but for example Russia, China, and the DPRK can't be criticized, because they are the ""axis of evil"" in the mainstream narrative. I'm following this weaker Chomsky principle because i don't want to say anything that might be appropriated for an argument that supports a new cold-war or worse. Keep that in mind when you read this.

Main topic
I'm trying to get a materialist view of liberties. Usually people consider liberties to be timeless conditionaless absolutes. In some places of the world owning a gun is considered a liberty. In order to have that liberty you do need a government that doesn't try to disarm it's population, but far more importantly you need to have invented sophisticated metallurgy and gunpowder. So in conclusion liberties are conditional to development, in this case technical development. Tho not all conditions for liberties must be of a technical nature.

Many people are criticizing China for lacking certain personal liberties, and a big chunk of that is made up horror stories that never happened, but not all of it is wrong. For example China lacks technology privacy.

A considerable section of the Chinese population is not plugged into the techno-social information infrastructure. Since China has only beaten absolute poverty but not yet uneven development. That means if china were to move ahead and improve the tech-rights for Chinese citizens at this point in time they would benefit only the wealthier sections of society that can afford all the information services. That section of society could potentially seek to pull up the ladder behind them selves and prevent the rest of society from gaining access to beneficial information services.

So I will speculate that once China has leveled the uneven development, it will become politically viable for China to advance tech-rights. Politically viable in this context mePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.468173

>>468170
>Well there is a point in not using that propaganda terminology. If only to communicate that you aren't towing the ideological line that seeks to demonize China in order to make war. Also language is an ideological battlefield why would you seed any ground to the warmongers ?
So basically virtue signaling?
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 No.468175

>>468173
What ?
no, it's not a virtue, there's nothing virtuous about this, it's an ideological position.
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 No.478287

bump
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 No.478299

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Your life was never yours to enjoy.
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 No.478309

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>>478299
fatalism is useless.
if your life isn't yours, claw it back from who ever took it.


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 No.472952[Reply]

No wander leftypol spazzes out at the mention of him

>PROVING LEFTISM IS A RIGHT-WING IDEOLOGY.


>On the face of it, it seems completely contradictory to call leftism right-wing. The midwits responding to this will definitely try and remind you of that.


>But at some point in the course of Western history, people forgot about the actual historical tradition of left-wing politics entirely, confusing it for a newer ideology: Leftism.


>The key distinction lies in the 'ism' part of Leftism. In contrast to left-wing politics, leftism is itself an ideology rather than a political position. Jacobinism, Sandinismo, Mao Zedong Thought, etc. for example, can be called ideologies, which are left-wing in political content.


>Leftism, by contrast, is only left-wing in form. In content, it is actually right-wing. And this can be proven easily.


>Instead of referring to any actual concrete left-wing politics, leftism should be understood as a comprehension of the historical left taken in a purely abstract way - a meta-narrative of left-wing politics, if you will.


>This is what makes it outside the actual left-wing: In order to turn left-wing politics into a total IDEAL, you need a necessary conceptual distance from it which is only possible if you are, in fact, a right-winger.

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 No.473061

>Blacks and Fags not STFU about racism and homophobia are why conservatives vote Trump.
There I saved you 30 mins
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 No.473062

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>They (the left) were taking all of the right's slander, mis-characterization, and demonization of the international left at face value and started identifying with it openly.
Holy shit no, the left did not turn into the histrionic strawman the right painted them as. This is something some old neoliberal fossil on Prager U would say
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 No.473064

>>473061
>>473062
>Liberals have entered the chat
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 No.473075

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>>473062
Ya, it was all PragerU who spun this idea out of nothing.
[spoiler]Clown[/spoiler]
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 No.478288

>>473061
irony is alot of ethnic and sexual minorities are Trump sympathisers.


 No.477302[Reply]

I couldn't think of anything specific to say, and I just wanted to share this fantastic recent exchange between Richard Wolff and Michael Hudson on the subject of China's imploding housing bubble and recent global political economy. Enjoy, anons.

https://inv.vern.cc/watch?v=uS4ewq1R9ps
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 No.478040

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>>478039
If you work for money then it can be called a job. This is also why people convert their cash into virtual money to live virtual lives, like habbo. My concept is holistic and scientific. If not, then what is "money" to you?
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>>478005
>It's not a natural limit, like the Earth said "no more precious metal, guess nature says you can't do money any more!"
Obviously there is a limit to how much actual gold exists inside the earth. What makes it a good currency is that a politician cannot decide we need another 20 year war in the middle east and magic the gold out of thin air. Actual work and energy needs to be expended to increase the money supply.

>And always have. The reason for selecting precious metals in the first place was because ordinary people couldn't acquire them.

Even 60 years ago government coins contained real silver. Sorry I don't have time for the rest of your post if it's just more of this.

>>478008
>cough
At least defend your original argument instead of jumping to a new topic.

>https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/fungibility-graveyard/

>tldr you can trace some individual sats back to shady transactions.
And you can trace basically all dollars back to illegal activity so what's your point.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cocaine-contaminates-majority-of-american-currency/
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 No.478109

>>478107
>And you can trace basically all dollars back to illegal activity so what's your point.
This is not about traceability, at least not directly. Some BTCs have become tainted and can no longuer be exchanged , that doesn't happen with other currencies

>Nobody is forcing you to buy an iPhone.

<It's a monopoly if you are forced to buy it, technically you are not forced to buy anything, and therefore monopolies can't exist.
That's a retarded definition.
Marxists define a monopoly by the ability to set prices above market exchange value and collect monopoly-rent. (more explanation at the bottom of the post)
That's clearly the case for apple.

>You guys really are just entitled

<Apple is entitled to it's monopolies, you're not entitle to a free market
I know this is facetious, but you asked for it.
Anyway what Apple gets away with, is what all the other smartphone producers will try to copy, so everybody who isn't a I-zealot still is affected.

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 No.478121

>>478107
You're not getting it. Money as a concept is not intrinsically worth anything. It exists because states issued coinage, not because people decided for no apparent reason gold or silver ingots were now valuable. Most people have no reason to view anything as intrinsically valuable, or that there is intrinsically a society at all to trade with, let alone a society that would honor the value of anything its members claim. The money could be anything. It was never intrinsically valuable by any law of nature. Money was valuable because there were particular people who decided it would be, whether because it was dictated by them or because there were people who colluded to introduce a new concept of value or how people are to interact with each other. The only laws of nature are that there are human beings who like living - it says nothing about a preferred standard for economic exchange. All of this is just a way to make people do things they really don't want to do, and so money is worthless without armed men to enforce debts. Money and debt regimes have failed in the past, because the things that are really coveted are human labor and technology, and the uses of those things are not freely exchangeable by any natural and self-evident law.
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 No.478122

The point isn't that people don't have bits of gold or silver, but that the mines to provide them could be controlled with far less effort than it would take to lock down all of the farms, all of the trade roads, and monopolize them. The drive to monopolize anything is not something rulers "have" to do, but choose to do.


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