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 No.5571[Reply]

Need some resources


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 No.4666[Reply]

and how do they plan on deprecating money itself? I know labor vouchers is usually the system that’s brought up but it doesn’t seem like Marx himself was thrilled about it, he just said it could be temporarily used in a workers’ state. I don’t understand how he planned on deprecating it afterwards. Cockshott expanded upon this by adding that they could be digital so that people wouldn’t be able to trade with them. but how does the act of trading currency inherently promote labor alienation? I understand how under private property it does, but in a collectively owned means of production I don’t see why it’s a problem, or why it’s any better than the currency system of the Soviet Union.
tl;dr why do orthodox Marxists believe no banknotes at all > labor vouchers > money?
pic unrelated.
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 No.5553

"Eventually"? Getting rid of it is a necessity.
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 No.5557

>>5553
That answers nothing
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 No.5566

>>4667
>abolishing the production of things with the primary purpose of being sold (rather than shared or distributed)
So there will be no more trading collectable card games in communism?
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 No.5567

>>5566
“abolish” is a bad translation of “sublate”. there won’t be a law making trading things illegal, that’s not what abolish means in Marxism.
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 No.6256

>>5566
Pokemon card are shared and passed around.


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 No.5485[Reply]

Is there such a thing yet? Philosophy about data itself, datamining, neural networks, massive surveillance, etc.
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 No.5491

Pretty weird because I was literally thinking the exact same thing this morning. You would think it’s pretty straight forward to make a dialectical analysis of the internet and its alienation and accumulation of data but it seems like no one has done it.
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 No.5493

>>5491
more likely, academic philosophy (and science's philosphy) is way too obscure and not vulgarized at all, cause I would be surprised none of them thought about theorizing that shit
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 No.5494

Baudrillard and Virilio
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 No.5507

>>5485
philosophy of technology is your best bet. McLuhan, Packard, Mumford, Baudrillard

For specific current books on what you're talking about:
The age of surveillance capitalism
Surveillance Valley - The Secret Military History of the Internet
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 No.5538

>>5507
I think OP is talking more about the internet as a culture and it’s movements. An explanation for the rise and fall of internet communities would be an interesting endeavor.


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 No.5113[Reply]

The Bunkerchan (rip) Capital Reading Group recently finished Volume I and will be reading Volume II starting the second week of April! If you wish to join grab a copy of Penguin classics and be able to commit to a once a week discussion on Sundays - we are all US based and typically meet around 9 EST.

Expect to read 50-80 pages a week. We will not be covering the introduction or preface, but you are encouraged to read it before the group officially starts.

We will be reading Volume III after our reading of Volume II. And I wouldn't mind tacking on Marx's Grundrisse as well.

Group channel:

https://matrix.to/#/!yiDRNQUOWVfxjUAqli:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=pixie.town&via=matrix.volguine.com
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 No.5367

Cool and gentle reminder to pick up Vol II (or use libgen) if you are planning on joining, we start next week.
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 No.5369

>>5368
yes the one on the front cover >>5113
and libreoffice tables because Marx used free software
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 No.5419

We're reading Chapter 1: The Circuit of Money Capital this week.

'The Russian landowners, who as a result of the so-called emancipation of the peasants are now compelled to carry on agriculture with the help of wage-labourers instead of the forced labour of serfs, complain about two things: First, about the lack of money-capital. They say for instance that comparatively large sums must be paid to wage-labourers before the crops are sold, and just then there is a dearth of ready cash, the prime condition. Capital in the form of money must always be available, particularly for the payment of wages, before production can be carried on capitalistically. But the landowners may take hope. Everything comes to those who wait, and in due time the industrial capitalist will have at his disposal not alone his own money but also that of others.

The second complaint is more characteristic. It is to the effect that even if one has money, not enough labourers are to be had at any time. The reason is that the Russian farm-laborer, owing to the common ownership of land in the village community, has not yet been fully separated from his means of production and hence is not yet a “free wage-laborer” in the full sense of the word. But the existence of the latter on a social scale is a sine qua non for M — C, the conversion of money into commodities, to be able to represent the transformation of money-capital into productive capital.'

An example of the super woke shit you could be reading leftypol anons
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 No.5473

We will be reading Chapter 2 + 3 this week, as always if you have some familiarity with Volume I you are encouraged to join. Happy reading.
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 No.5529

we read slow this week and only covered through chapter 2, we will be meeting up for a discussion on chapters 3 4 and 5 in two weeks.


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 No.5393[Reply]

I'm a 100% Debordian doomerism cuck and the only thing i've read from Foucault is Discipline and Punish which I didn't even finish. I don't understand why he gets so much shit from everyone.
His writing style is pretty simple and I don't think he says anything absurdly stupid.
I've tried reading Forget Foucault but it's inaccessible even by Baudrillard standards.
Can someone give me a quick rundown? And what's your opinion on him? Is it true that he basically became a neoliberal at the end of his life?
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 No.5455

He gave support to neoliberalism cuz "less state power is good for freedumbz"
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 No.5469

Foucault is generally well respected in the academy these days

now if you want to talk about someone who is underrated, it's Bourdieu
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 No.5503

>>5450
>modes of production are not control units.
All that is solid melts into air…
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 No.5528

Because he was a pedo lol


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 No.5423[Reply]

Is Marxist Humanism the most correct interpretation of what Marx was getting at philosophically on the objective of communism? Marx only ever truly critiqued political economy and never focused on creating a new society and spoke of its political and economic structure because that was what utopian socialists and vulgar economists engaged in.

The goal for Marx understand the social economic relations of his time to understand why they existed in the first place and understand what bourgeois economists failed to understand in trying to create systems and economic categories to explain what they failed to get to the heart of. So the object was the liberation of the particular which would follow by liberating the social whole. The freer the individual the freer the social whole. This meant the liberation of not just the worker but also the liberation of the capitalist from their subservience to capital, which society itself created the conditions for and has created the conditions for the liberation of itself from it.
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 No.5468

is it right to say that marxist humanism links closely with social reproduction theory?

Like, obviously Capital is Marx's masterwork, but I think the problem with it alone, is that you can get too caught up in the wage labour dynamic and neglect the reproduction of the working class, which of course involves other things than wage labour, such as domestic work, the environment, culture, etc.
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 No.5470

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>>5467
Proletariat Refuses interpellation from Repressive State Apparatuses
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 No.5479

>>5467
He falls into positivist dogma and fails to uncover the fundamentals of ideology, unlike Zizek
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 No.5518

>>5470
“For, instead of saying: ‘Fight false ideas, destroy the false ideas you have in your heads – the false ideas with which the ideology of the dominant class pulls the wool over your eyes, and replace them with accurate ideas that will enable you to join the revolutionary class’s struggle to end exploitation and the repression that sustains it!’, Action declares: ‘Get rid of the cop in your head!”

Althusser sucks ass at coming up with slogans though
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 No.5492

>>3377
> There are only so many hours in a day. Time spent reading Hegel is not time spent learning anything about the developments in the field of physics over the past 100 years
You think I don’t literally do both? I feel like the only people that make up dichotomies about philosophy and science literally just sit on their asses all day on anime forums doing absolutely nothing.
I’m a computer engineering major so I have to learn all this bullshit you’re talking about. I read philosophy because I understand the limitations of pure logic to everyday life and have seen its limits.
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 No.5498

>>5492
>I understand the limitations of pure logic to everyday life and have seen its limits
Can you give some examples. I'm really interested in that and how Philosophy helps with it
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 No.5499

>>3377
>There are only so many hours in a day. Time spent reading Hegel is not time spent learning anything about the developments in the field of physics over the past 100 years.
You think I will spend time down either? Book cuck. I can't read motherfucker!
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 No.5500

>>5498
The theories of logic of Godel and Wittgenstein.
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 No.6026

>muh science


 No.5042[Reply]

Requesting books on the U.S Intelligence community, especially the CIA and NSA. I'm interested in their history, anything they've been involved with, how they work etc. From a leftist perspective would be appreciated as well. Currently reading Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine, which is pretty good for some basic observation and history.
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>>5382
I guess I can't argue with that
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 No.5453

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 No.5454

>>5045
>>5452
>>5453
Related as well, I think.
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 No.5489

Surprised this wasn't here. I haven't read the entire thing, but I have used it as a reference for the FBI's infiltration of the CPUSA and some other organisations.


 No.5457[Reply]

I thought that it might me interesting to have a research thread on Native Americans (meaning all of the American continent). I've become very interested in the subject after reading about their culture and way of life, which was much more complex than colonizers initially believed. I'll embed a video which talks about various things about pre columbian civilizations, like how the populations may have been as high as 100 million before disease wiped out many (disease likely went a head of europeans too, so what settlers saw was basically post apocalyptic). Also, what we're now finding out about how humans initially arrived is very interesting too as there were likely some migrations by boat through the pacific by Pacific Islanders, who were incredible at navigation.
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 No.5458

Also crazy is how ancient mounds built by aborigines are used as part of a fucking golf course, literally Stonehenge underneath them. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/arts/design/octagon-earthworks-newark-ohio-golf-course-native-american.html
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 No.5459

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>>5457
>which was much more complex than colonizers initially believed.
more like
>which was initially impressive and humbling to colonizers who proceeded to erase as much of it as possible because it made them feel insecure about their shitty architecture/agriculture and lack of hygiene
Early explorers tended to be impressed by the societies they encountered before disease and colonial genocide fucked it up.

People are sad about the Library of Alexandria burning, but we still have many if not most of the texts it contained there (because they "taxed" visitors by having them lend their texts to the library to copy, so it was largely not original texts). Meanwhile almost all of the writing that existed in the Americas (which most people aren't aware existed at all) was systematically destroyed by colonizers for being pagan etc.
For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_codices

Also look into the more recent LiDAR scans of land in the Americas (and other places like Angkor Wat) finding far more extensive ruins that were originally known to exist. A lot of the past is hidden under soil that accumulated above it, but with laser scanning from aircraft it's now possible to reveal it.
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/hidden-ancient-maya-city-discovered-lidar-1359307
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 No.5463

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On this subject I really recommend Visión de los Vencidos (The Broken Spears in English) by Miguel León Portilla. As the title suggests, it's about the conquest of what is now Mexico as told by the Aztecs themselves
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 No.5465

>>5457
Some books on Aztec philosophy and theology.


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 No.5410[Reply]

What's a good book on one of the most epic moment in the history of communism: the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution?
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 No.5420

And Mao Makes Five
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 No.5421

>>5416
>>5417
>>5418
Found it tank you comrades
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 No.5460

On a somewhat off topic note, what other theory material is similar in style to mao? I find his collected works to be very easy to understand and read, so I wondering if there are any other writers who’ve made books in an easy style.
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 No.5464

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>>5460
I find that the majority of Maoist (MLM) authors I have read follow Mao's own style of readability over academic prose.

The most obvious recommendations for individual theorists in that sphere are:
>Jose-Maria Sison
>J. Moufawad-Paul
>K. Murali (Ajith)
>Pao-Yu Ching

All of which have their works available on foreignlanguages.press digitally or in print.

Of course, the works of the Communist Party of Peru, The Philippines and India (Maoist) all seem to follow said writing style and are well worth everyone's time.


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