/tech/ - Technology

>>12762
>It's something you could do locally but it's just cheaper to hire them then build your own backbone to the internet.
I thought the point of CDNs was to make a website load fast for users that are far away from the web-server. So that functionality is not something you could do locally, because the hole point is for it to have an effect far away.

>Really? I've never considered infrastructure.
I will admit i don't have a good grasp on how CDNs work, i considered it infrastructure because it's something that most websites seem to use.

So what's your take, why is the IP mafia attacking this ?

Is that not how 8chan got taken down, they pressured their CDN?

>>12764
Yes. CDNs are effectively a protection racket today. Play by their rules or get DoS'd when they revoke your service.

Hopefully I2P/tor/one of those nets where hosting is distributed will save us long term.

>>12762
TBF most this applies to most real world infrastructure. You CAN treat your own water and generate your own electricity if you're rural and are willing to spend a decent chunk of your wages. The infrastructure line seems like one of those excuses which will be tossed aside by the powers that be when convenient though. Hopefully structural change will come.

>>12774
>Hopefully
>one of those nets where hosting is distributed will save us
Indeed.

Maybe open systems where no gate-keeper can impose them self's are temporary. It appears that nice people build a pleasant open system, and then people are free for a while. But eventually the horrible people that try to subjugate everybody figure how to break in and close it down. So in order to have a open system that stays open, the nice people have to keep re-configuring their open systems continuously, to stay ahead of the horrible people trying to clamp everything down.

>long term.
Maybe there is a permanent fix that prevents the emergence of gatekeepers. I think we might have figured it out for roads, the vast majority of roads are free from gatekeepers in our time. Compare that to feudal times where about half the roads were blocked by some kind of feudal thug that was extorting travelers for unmolested passage. I wonder what the materialist causes for the liberation of roads were and whether we can learn from that.

>>12770
Oh look, there goes Euros. Making themselves irrelevant nobodies in the name of safety again.

>>12771
I think that's not an entirely fair assessment.

The reason the US has big-tech companies and Europe doesn't, has little to do with regulations.

The US developed these technologies in the public sector with public funding and handed them over to silicon valley, where big finance pumped huge sums of money into those tech companies so they could grow faster than anything else doing regular market stuff, like re-investing profits of the previous quarter to grow a little bit next quarter.

The question is what do you want from AI. Do you want one giant mega-AI that does everything ? if so the US method will give you that.

I find the big tech platforms frustrating to use. They're sort of alright if you have no idea and just want to follow their template. But if you know what you want, it gets really complicated and difficult.

To me a few hundred small AIs that are specialized to a narrower field sounds a lot more appealing. I think at the moment this can only exist as small open source projects that are funded by donations from individuals, public grants and private companies that use the tools they make. Regular small businesses that make a proprietary tech thing tend to get gobbled up by massive corporations that mostly just ruin and then ditch the tech thing. I'm not sure if these EU regulations will deliver that or not, i'm kinda waiting for policy experts to analyze that.

Another thing is that there are 2 stages to the current AI-race. The first one is figuring out these Ai models, once these crystalize into known quantities and are fully optimized software. There will be a second race to build the most efficient hardware-stack to run them. I'm guessing that will need lots of different accelerators, so that might favor open architectures like RISKV where it's easy to mix and match.

>>12772
uygha, you really need to work on brevity

YouTube Is Losing To The Adblockers

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=h9UubIJRyV8

So Youtube is apparently running into EU Privacy laws because they did not ask users for permission before they ran anti-adblocker javascript in People's browsers.

The battle will probably continue, anybody care to speculate about how this will turn out ?

>>12722
eu laws on internet stuff are strict. even Alphabet, Inc. will have to yield.

>>12725
It seems so. Tho keep in mind it's very difficult to predict what laws mean for a layperson.

Many people think that Youtube is doing this because they're not making enough money with adds to break even on platform costs. My guess is that add-revenue is probably shrinking because most people have less disposable income (because wealth inequality is growing), and rich people spend a much smaller share of their income on commodity purchases, so all of those adds are chasing a piece of a shrinking pie. It looks like we're winning this round, but this is probably going to come back in some other form.

google's add crusaders have come up with a new scheme.

They want to remove the ability of adblockes to update their block-lists independently from the entire add-on. Which means instead of daily updated block-lists, it might take upto 2 weeks, that delay will probably make them alot less effective.

I predict that Firefox will regain popularity, and some ad-blockers might actually become there own browser.

I'm posting this in this thread because it's vaguely related

Latest Draft of UN Cybercrime Treaty Is A Big Step Backward
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/latest-draft-un-cybercrime-treaty-big-step-backward

<A new draft of the controversial United Nations Cybercrime Treaty has only heightened concerns that the treaty will criminalize expression and dissent, create extensive surveillance powers, and facilitate cross-border repression.
<The proposed treaty, originally aimed at combating cybercrime, has morphed into an expansive surveillance treaty, raising the risk of overreach in both national and international investigations. The new draft retains a controversial provision allowing states to compel engineers or employees to undermine security measures, posing a threat to encryption.

It feels almost like there is a cabal going around that is inserting their poising into all kinds of political institutions, in the form of horrendous policy drafts. That cabal seems to have a special hard-on for surveillance and fucking with encryption.

<This draft retains the concerning issue of expanding the scope of evidence collection and sharing across borders for any serious crime, including those crimes that blatantly violate human rights law.
That probably means that if some country goes bad and makes nonsense laws like for example, classifying insulting the flag as a serious crime, every country that is a treaty signatory would be compelled to help persecute people for making the pole-cloth feel bad.

Was it always like this ?
It feels like it's gotten worse somehow.
Was there ever a time when people decided that the risk of enabling persecution was too high and policing powers had to be reduced to protect people from overreach ?

>>10760
Next post will probably be how to optimize the output of a factory using Kantorovich's method *if I can get a grip on this shit*

>>10762
i understood zero of what you said
i don't own a factory man

I've been looking into what's needed for both leftychan and leftypol sites to be converted into the latest kurobas. It looks like it just needs to be imported more than anything with the correct type of chan engine.

I'm not a coder but I'm not too dumb in understanding what might be required for conversion. I've found the original source code and two potential forks we can use.

I'll make an update on this next weekend.

If you know how to do java, please let me know. We might can get this fixed way easier and probably even leave directions when shit hits the fan again.

There's two major apps that we could use moving forward.
Blue Clover: https://nnuudev.github.io/BlueClover/
Kuroba-Ex: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental

We were very close with Kuroba-Ex but the developer is a bit of a dick and asshole. Thus why I moved to Blue Clover.

Sauce: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental/issues/780

>>12758
based thank you

>>12496
I remember reading about people proposing ideas to make a java-syntax compatible replacement-script with dramatically reduced functionality but also much greater security. Something that was supposed to work for the basic stuff that most websites use.

Anybody know what happened to that, maybe that would be useful for this.

If you cared about security, you wouldn't add java-script and then add another program ontop of it to disable it.

>>12569
>Maybe chown root the extensions folder?
I tried chmod u-w on the extensions folder, this resulted in TBB starting up but when I tried to open a website it just kept re-downloading the page over and over but it never displayed it.

>>12571
>Tor is open source.
I tried to compile TBB once but couldn't figure out how to do it. Maybe I'll try again.

And it seems they are rewriting the Tor daemon in Rust.
https://blog.torproject.org/arti_119_released/

Compiling Rust requires tons of free disk space (like 10+GB) and half a day on a mediocre multi-core machine.
Problem, gentoo users?

>>12572
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>>12573
>If it is turing-complete it is potentially vulnerable.
A solution for websites that need JS for whatever reason would be to distribute gpg-signed browser extensions. At least that way the code can be audited.
But if your site requires JS, it might be worth considering to release it as software instead…

Last time my TBB updated, it didn't reinstall NoScript.
So it seems someone got through to the devs. Let's hope it stays that way.

>>12496
>Well, maybe because addons are a great way to inject JavaScript and potentially use one of a gazillion JS engine vulnerabilities to expose the user's clearnet IP.
If you can be deanonymized with javascript then the noscript extension is really not the problem. If you don't know how to configure a tor-only firewall then use a system like tails or whonix which does it for you.

>Let's not forget that TBB devs once before joined forces with the FBI and changed NoScript settings
<ctrl-f noscript
<Phrase not found.
If you feel the need to lie that means you can't even convince yourself with this argument.

>It seems (((someone))) has a strong interest to keep this addon around.
The whole point of tor browser is to protect non-technical users who have a tenancy to fuck things up by accident. If they were malicious they would hide backdoor code in the browser itself not an extension you can just delete.

Forgot link to disinfo site:
https://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/

>>12710
there are 2 kinds of people who might want to fuck with the random number generator.

The first group is indeed glowies who want to undermine cryptography. They don't seem to care that they're making the hole infrastructure vulnerable. I wonder what the logic behind that is. Maybe they think the ability to destroy something = having power over something. Maybe they're self-deluding that they'll be the only ones that can figure out the security holes they poke into the system.

The second group is people who don't use the random number generator for anything where true randomness is critical (like adding artistic blur to a picture) they just want it to be simple and fast, and they try to take out all the extra steps that improve the quality of randomness.

The people who don't need random numbers for security are probably going to stop bugging you if you make it fast enough. Low entropy pool did actually cause delays where some applications would halt for a few seconds until they loaded.

For the glowies you'd probably have to understand why and how they operate before you can fix anything , you'd have to figure out why they're trying to sabotage our systems. Like why aren't they trying to help making it more secure. Is something wrong with their organizational incentives ?

For the standpoint of making the technical infrastructure more secure i guess you want to avoid single points of failure, and have more than one random number generator contribute. Maybe you also want to add automatic checks. You know give the system more depth to make it more complicated to compromise it.

>Thoughts?
I think the big-picture is that information systems that can get compromised will eventually fail. There is some tolerance for error, but it's really low. So what has to happen for this situation to improve ?

>>12710
What do you make of the entropy seed generator in X86 processors ?

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=aEJB8IAMMpA

>>12701
>Buy a Mac and
install Asahi Linux on it

>>12701
>>12700
>>12702
Linux is an operating system "for fun," to help a college student figure out how an intel 80386 works and what all it is capable of doing.
Developers glommed onto it for various reasons in the decades that followed achievement of that purpose. Almost all of those various developer reasons are today no longer valid. For example Apple now supplies professional quality Unix operating systems far below the price of the NeXT boxes that Carmack & co needed to build Doom. All operating systems now have adequate, native modern compilers for C style languages without the butchery of Microsoft Turbo-C. DirectX is no longer distinctly inferior to OpenGL, and even if it were OpenGL works more or less natively in a platform agnostic way after Microsoft buried the hatchet. The extent to which Linux is a good or even adequate solution for development environment is also increasingly questionable. Linux does not offer support for industry standard solutions such as Microsoft Visual Studio Pro, and this means that Linux will not in the future offer support for AI-accelerated development utilizing the CoPilot features that OpenAI and its partner Microsoft will soon integrate into the interfacial orifices of every Windows environment.
And by share of adoption Linux isn't for developers either, it's for user-ignored peripherals and backend systems. In both of those systems its vulnerabilities are increasingly showing and therefore it is on those fronts that development from large corporate interests would rationally focus. Linux having purpose as a networking and infrastructure OS is also increasingly questionable. Chrome and Android have in the past been steered by Google in the direction of adopting a proprietary minix- or bsd-based kernel, though I'm not sure anything came of those motions. What I am sure of is that Microsoft Azure and Windows solutions have found rapid and rapidly-expanding adoption into network roles throughout the business world due in no small part to Microsoft's ability to both offer direct support and to certify and vouch for the credentials of independent network technicians and professionals at a level unparalleled in the Linux ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>12718
Developer here, linux is the only viable option. OSX is for babies who can't into programming.

>>12718
Okay but have you even *used* Windows in the last 5 years? As in attempted to decipher the interfaces of the native apps themselves and not just do everything in the browser?

Like whatever problems you ran into with linux was most certainly you trying to do something so advanced you wouldn't have even concieved as possible on windows. Linux will trivially do every work task you're reasonably going to be expected to do, and any indie game is going to run without issues. Even drivers are a non-issue now.

>>12718
>Windows has ai features
I'll admit for a giant mega-corp Microsoft was actually pretty quick in adopting the AI tech, so cudos for maneuvering that giant ship. However there were Chat-gpt plug-ins for most popular Linux desktop environment a few days after ChatGPT went into public beta. Ocean liners can't outrun speedboats.

However Integrating AI with the desktop will get more interesting once computers have AI accelerators on board so that your Operating system doesn't loose features if you're offline or the AI servers back-end is unavailable. Also running stuff locally is probably better for privacy.

>co-pilot
Have they fixed their legal issues yet, that thing where it just copy pasted code from github, and caused all major software dev factories to ban copilot because of legal risks?

You are not wrong that prompt-engineering will replace stack-overflow copy-paste-engineering. But at the moment it's still slower, it takes 5 seconds for Ai to generate code and than it takes at least a hour until the prompt-engineer has polished it enough to go into production. I would say this makes it less demanding in terms of effort, but for time, it's not faster. The final form of AI-assisted programming will be in form of a sudo-programming language. Because you need a high degree of specificity to describe what you want it to code and spoken language doesn't have that.

MS has a particular vision for how all of this is supposed to work and as soon as you try to do something that strays from the beaten path, it's going to be fucking impossible to do that with windows. Linux will not have that problem. Power User will increasingly go Linux

>Microsoft will take the blame for your fuck-ups if you pay the certification racket
Lol, i very much doubt that, they have thousands of lawyers busy deflecting blame away from MS
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Wow. You mean we can create a chatbot which constantly replies with:
>That's racist
>That's fascist
>That's not funny
>That's not real

Sounds great. Could really change the fortunes of leftist organizing

>>12714
That's racist and not funny.

>>12713
i mean it could be nice in a way, you could have an interactive epitaph of your loved ones. But if you let that loose on the internet you'll have social media haunted by digital ghosts.

>>12714
Lol

>>12716
The internet is already dead, no one uses it and every account is a bot.

>>12706
America is so fucking stupid, I hope this leads to brain drain.

>>12707
>America is so fucking stupid
Well sort off, there are lots of clever Americans too but they don't appear to have much pull in the halls of power these days.

>I hope this leads to brain drain.
That's definitely what will happen.

I don't know what the effect will be, the philosophical conviction and ethical principles for open technology are very American. Europeans have to an extend adopted those as well but see it more in terms of fair market competition and consumer rights.

It's difficult to gage how the Chinese see it. I think they consider companies that open source their tech as the industry leader/master and those that copy it as the industry follower/apprentice.