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 No.858[Reply]

The Marxist analysis of Capitalism and post-Capitalism is fairly straightforward in its understanding of why Capitalism will not last.

The productive forces of Capitalism will be developed, until a certain point where Capitalism will come to inhibit their further growth. At this point, the proletariat must rise up and destroy the Capitalist mode of production to free the forces of production imprisoned within them.

What Marx does, is essentially agree with the "mission" of Capital, the growth of productive forces, but does not think Capitalism will be able to complete this mission due to its internal contradictions.

This is where the problem of Marxism comes in. Marx does not understand, as later thinkers who developed upon his ideas, Jaques Camatte and Nick Land, that the mission of Capital, the growth of productive forces, schizophrenic revolutionizing of society, etc, this is the problem humanity has with Capital, because these goals are on a fundamental level, anti-human. They are the goals of the market God, in its "progressive" quest to mechanize human life down to the second, not the goals of humanity. Post-Capitalism, or rather Capitalism that has broken through the wall of its own contradiction in order to further presue its mission, will not be for humans. It will be a continuation of the mission of Capital, and that missions end is the complete domestication and annihilation of the human race. Nick Land and Camatte made this very clear.

Marx attempts to divorce Capitalism and its technology, not realizing that Capitalism itself, the blind idiot god, is the most important part of this technology. No consciously organized system of humans can match the speed, versatility and growth of the dispersed dead brain of Capital itself.

The growth in productive forces do not exist for the benefit of humanity. They exist for the benefit of Capital. Capital itself is the motor of technological change and modernity. Nothing can replace it.

We do not want "Post-Capitalism". A post-Capitalism that contains the drive for progress of Capitalism will not be liberation. It will be the death of the human species and the planet earth. Industrial society, and Capital's mission of its expansion into all aspects of the human life and subjectivity, itself requires repression. We cannot progress "past" Capitalism, because progress is merely a measure of how completely Capital has subordinated the human community to itPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.905

>>877
why am I watching advertisements on the anticapitalist board
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 No.1238

>>858
all i hear is talk about Marx but nothing about communism inherently. Marxism is shit, who would have guessed, doesn't stop me from being communist
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 No.1239

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>>858
>the goals of humanity
nice spook idiot. you might want to read deleuze himself instead of third-rate secondary lit like nick land.
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 No.1241

>>858
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes, humanfags rise up
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 No.1242

>>893
i think the proletariat is revolutionary in the same sense that the bourgeoisie was - that is, it only revolutionizes within the system and perfects it further, but does nothign to destroy the old god. The proletariat might triumph over the bourgeoisie, and we could get something much more egalitarian in a way, but it would still function to better serve the capitalist goal of full commodification and deconstruction of everything. What we call capitalism is just the modern incarnation of Capital. Its fundamentally democratic feudalism, which was a more democratic or anarchic version of empire. The project of Capital is the most basic formula - release more energy to itself and use that to grow, in order to release more energy. So i see a continuity between modern day capitalism and the oldest slaver city states


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 No.1194[Reply]

Do any of you guys feel like you are just going through the motions of life because it's all you know how to do?
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 No.1195

I don't, but I guess that's more due to me not going through any motions at all. All I do is rott in my flat or buy groceries every 5 days.
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 No.1196

>>1195
I'm rotting too, this fucking sucks. My job has such a small amount of staff that at least I'm safe from the 'rona, but fuck this.
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 No.1197

>>1194
yeah basically, and honestly its the worst feeling there is for me, like just treading water. It instantly makes life meaningless when you're just living to live, but sometimes thats all ur circumstances allow for. Fucking sucks.
how i deal with it, friend: random acts of stupid willfulness basically. Get some hobby and make yourself work towards gitting good at it whenever you can. Get impaired at work. Get the supplies to camp/nomad and go on a lil trip. I think the only way to keep your soul is to remind yourself that the world hasnt totally broken you yet and give yourself "muscle memory" for things other than routine or what you're supposed to do. The thing that solidified my anarchism when i was younger was running away from home, but just because of how willful of an act it was. It reminded my soul that i still could choose for myself and change my own life


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 No.1005[Reply]

I'm getting tired of these /pol/yps raiding our board, atleast here they won't find us.
How are you guys doing?
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 No.1055

>>1026
It's actually leftist instead of right-wingers cosplaying as revolutionaries.
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 No.1067

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>>1055
>he thinks something being 'actually' leftist is an agrument for and not against it
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 No.1073

>>1067
I don't mind talking to social anarchists
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 No.1205

>>1306
>we need fascism
Sorry, not interested in a father-complex
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 No.1206

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>>1306


 No.18[Reply]

What's the hot new torture from post-late stage capitalism?
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 No.24

Being alive.
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 No.33

Sometimes, if I spend too much time around positivists, I get this creeping fear that they'll actually discover immortality.A life of perpetual fear and labor, without even the release of death–that is Hell–and there are people fantasizing about how they will make it happen. Apparently well-meaning people, who are all the more terrible and dangerous because of this psychotic break from reality that makes them believe things will get better under capitalism.Of course, there is also the obvious torture use of such a thing. Keep someone alive and imprisoned for centuries, until they go so crazy they start to believe that other people and the outside world were just products of their imagination.
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 No.35

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&gt&gt67"Life cannot simply be something to cling to. This thought skims through everyone at least once. We have a possibility that makes us freer than the gods: we can quit. This is an idea to be savoured to the end. Nothing and no one is obliging us to live. Not even death."
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 No.444

>>18test
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 No.1211

>>33
yeah but if there was a cosmetic that effectively stopped u from aging wouldnt you take it? like retinol x 1000


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 No.1031[Reply]

I open up my wallet…
and it's full of blood…
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 No.1034

shouldnta used the money for ya cunny…
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 No.1187

I hear donating plasma is a big business in the USA.


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 No.984[Reply]

Mouffe and Laclau reject the centrality of the proletariat and the historical determinism in Marxism

-What do you think about it?
-Could you recommend me some "post-marxist" authors or books?
-Which have been the most recent developments in this "current"?
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 No.988

I think they have some points in their critique of Marx, but their "post-Marxism" is just liberalism with a new coat of paint. They cite Carl Schmitt a lot but ironically just end up recreating the bourgeois myth of parliamentary democracy that Schmitt critiqued so much.
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 No.1120

What the fuck is post-marxism?
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 No.1131

>>1120
probably also stuff like Catoriadis who was a marxist first and then have his theory a post-structuralist bend.
Maybe even Adorno and Arendt but they are already to far off marxism to be considered an inverse, or post-ideology form, of it.

>>984
>-What do you think about it?
To me this is a complicated issue. I like the critique of historical determinism and the role of the broad proletariat as the revolutionary subject. But I think most post-marxist are, strangely, deterministic and structuralist while describing these qualities to the complete body of Marx's and Engels theoretical output.

>-Could you recommend me some "post-marxist" authors or books?

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/monsieur-dupont-nihilist-communism

>–Which have been the most recent developments in this "current"?

I really don't know but from outside I would say that the post-marxist 'scene' is probably quite small and the same is probably true for the disourse.


 No.1114[Reply]

Short zine about how cops use livestream footage and why is it okay to smash the smartphones of live streamers.
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 No.1116

>>1114
I kind of feel like this is a no-brainer. Obviously any recording made during action will be sighted and used by the government. The only problem is that I think mist people doing that shit don't give a fuck.
Like, to be in the head space to start streaming riots or protests you already have to have the sole goal of using the footage for vitrue signaling. It's like: look at me, I'm so revolutionary and woke, I am in the middle of the riot!
ANd since they don't care about achieving any real goals anyways and only entered the protest out of adventurism they also don't care if other people get fucked because of them.
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 No.1119

Most of them seem to consider themselves brave indie journos and are larping as such. If they had any tact at all they'd be streaming footage to a server with no viewers (in case the pigs destroy the device) to edit later and submit as actual professional media.


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 No.1100[Reply]

can catboys be post-left :3 ?
i mean wouldn't post-structuralists argue that terms like boy are abstract and have no real meaning?
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 No.1113

I'll use my authority to allow them
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 No.1117

>>1113
>truely the most supreme leader


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 No.1103[Reply]

doin praxis like im doin your mom
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 No.1109

>>1103
bernie sanders is lib-tier my mane, get this out of my face!


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 No.642[Reply]

New to the post-left here. If you are one of the two galaxy-brain post-left illegalists that I bonded with during the riots, you have my info, or I have contacted you, so get in touch because I want to escape.
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 No.749

>>726
the issues are sorted out, check again
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 No.754

if u recall e-mailing me about nick land and basilisks from a few months back, please check ur e-mail.
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 No.756

To the girl who was reading Tiqqun on the subway this Friday midnight: I wanted to ask for your number but you got off so abruptly I was afraid you spotted a plainclothes.
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 No.758

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Just a reminder
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 No.1043

Check your inbox


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