>>4463> they wouldn't have been so mean to Pink and each other. Nope. Pink DIAMOND and the others were still one of them, even if estranged. A cat doesn't stop being a biological cat if it starts defending mice does it?
>>4463> Hilter knew that the jews will suffer, he just couldn't care lessNo, he did not. He saw their suffering as something comparable to the struggles of an animal. Read The Untermensch, it outright describes subhumans (such as jews and slavs) as soul-less imitations of humans who go through the same motions as people, emulating pain or emotion, but not really feeling it. This is exactly how the Diamongs view other organisms, except more detatched because of the galactic scale of things annd utter detachment from getting their own hands dirty.
>Pink/Starlight was a name of affection for Steven.Good god are yo really this deluded?
>why not<t.neverreadLovecraft
>prove me wrongProve what wrong? Your entire circular apologetics?
>unable to care or know that the things they were doing was causing suffering<until Steven
Therein lies the problem. If they are so detached due to being so out of touch and NON-HUMAN they cannot emulate or understand that emotional spectrum from the talk of what amounts to a Human with OP Hax. This is a point of discussion used numerous times in Star Trek when meeting beings that were non-human entities and thus could not understand the motivations and emotions of humans, just as the human(oids) of Star Trek could not understand their motivations and emotions. This is the reason why I dismissed the "talk no jutsu" equivalency, the reason Naruto could do that was because, in the end, his opponents were human too and felt the same emotions and pain, and that on a base level that connects every human of past, present and future. Steven (if assumed more human than gem given his halfbreed status and human upbringing) literally has no way to connect to the Diamonds at all, or their motivations because from the human standpoint they are utter sociopaths, because they and their reasoning are outside of the realm of humanity, thus making their actions comparable to an unaware child. HOWEVER this is not the case because
A) Steven DOES connect to them, meaning that they DO have a level of understanding comparable to humans
B) Pink's actions and opposition to the other Diamonds on grounds of their actions being wrong, means that they can feel things and are somewhat aware
This means that they were aware of the consequences, and knew what such actions would invoke were it used against them and simply chose to view the life-forms they affected as sub-intelligences whose petty struggles and emotions were mere emulation.
>>4471>subjective<being lazy and promoting low-quality story-writing and political messages en masse is only "subjectively" wrong
Ok fag
>according to what standardsOh and here comes the "art is subjective" faggotry.
>if that's true then cartoons will get better as people both in the audience and the industry noticeAh yes because capitalism and monopolies won't just force through shit products. As explained.
A) The people who will notice the difference cannot make impact because against corporate monopoly not boycott will do anything, as numerous examples have shown for numerous products of the past decades
B) The Children who see this will see this level of crappy quality as standard and disregard actual quality as being necessary, because children below the age of 12 cannot view things like this objectively.
>an example is Steven Universe along with other "Toonboom" cartoons<handdrawn
You really don't know anything do you?
Steven universe is not actually hand animated, if it were, it wouldn't look in the rubbery fashion it is. Sending poorly done ideas to be made in some Thai-sweatshop studio is not legitimate.
>People and creators are acknowledgingThey have been acknowledging it for a decade and nothing is changing
>there have been some improvementsAll improvements made are due to technological advancement, something that in no way excuses the shitstyle
>If that was really important your first pic wouldn't look like thatYou're kidding right? All of the shows from the USA DOMINATE the market and push out any of the others out as unprofitable in comparison.
> they only vaguely share some characteristicsHaving slightly different curvatures for the beanface or other rounded "designs" is not vague at all. They're all the same shapeless rubbish with only 3 layers of animation most of which is on loop. Its like shitty flash-animation from the early days of newgrounds.
>they're not all the same genreOutside of Gravity falls they are almost all exclusively goofy color-noise comedy focused with dumb liberal idpol inserted for plot. Its like jangling plastic toys on a keychain in front of a baby while reciting a liberal-feminist gender-essay.
>Leave Regular ShowBecause Regular show, while not my cup of tea clearly uses a drastically different art-style. There is no beanface and the 'style' has plenty of detail and some shading that gives it more dimension. Similar to Gumball actually.
>when there are some recent or current CGI showsClone Wars was revived recently and is, like many other actually decent CGI in the USA, a relic of late 2000s animation along the lines of Transformers Prime. Moreover they are the exception not the rule. Pixar is also unique as it is a nearly independent part of Disney (even then a decline in quality is starting to show). Disney movies are not the topic of discussion, as the budget of 1 film is larger than the collective budget of all the pictured animations.
>LadybugWhile there are animation errors, Ladybug has a lot of good quality in it and in both plot and style blows away a lot of competition. Its not great, but certainly better than SU, StarVFE, Loud House or any other downright indefensible garbage.
>I'm getting the feeling that you've just been trolling this whole timeThe only feeling I'm getting is that you don't pay attention
>some of those animations are moviesSo are several of the USA side that's irrellevant given the point of contention and comparison. You're nitpicking t this point.
>just experimentingNo, they aren't and that is the entire problem. They are being used as the go-to for animation studios in the USA to mass produce shit that is atrocious in every way from the forced liberal politics, to the lazy art-style to the rubbery animation. It's lazy crap. Experimenting is what we get with Gumball.
>provide more complex and mature stories with a messageInserting politics =/= automatically mature and complex, nor is complexity always a good thing.
Mighty Max, a cheap toy-based 80s show with cheesy dialogues and good animation was more complex and mature than anything from Steven Universe.
>while staying funny and kid-friendly.You can't do that, otherwise the tonal shift becomes downright bipolar to the point where the show's message is trashed. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
A show like Clone Wars or Avatar the Last Airbender had humor and jokes, but it put them in appropriate scenes. How retarded would it have been to have Aang see the corpse of Monk Giatzo and then Sokka makes a comment about no meat again. Except becuse they all look like rubber caricatures, the impact of a skeletal corpse surrounded by death firebenders would lack the impact and thus make the "joke" less horrendous unless you think about it for more than a second. But because these kinds of toonboom shows hop around from scene to scene like a monkey on Crack, you don't have time to think, just absorb this eye-candy kid, turn your brain off!
>Cartoons won't get worse just because there was a period where some Tumblrites tried to do somethingYou are very naive and I envy that… the near future is dim my friend, because LSC is a bitch. Honstly toons are going through the same shit as anime - a million garbage shows with some good ones - for the past several years.