>>8909>Have you ever seen an episode of Star TrekYes, have you?
<Tom Paris
You're not making your case better
>watch DS9Ah yes the show that took Star Trek and decided that it would be a good idea to mix in inane comedy episodes midway through a war and have literal space-magic ripped off from Babylon 5. Those were the worst parts of DS-9 and terrible arguments.
>she's not a captainShe's an officer of a ship. With that logic, a junior lieutenant can act like a clown on duty.
<not in any high position
She was DEMOTED from a higher position in the fleet multiple times.
>despite her mom being a captain No, its BECAUSE of that, if they weren't her mom and dad, she'd likely be kicked out after court martial.
>It means she is an undisciplined fuck up You're contradicting your point and supporting mine.
>despite her experience, knowledge snd capabilitiesExcept it makes no sense, her experience makes no sense for someone who behaves like a child, she just "knows things" and has "experience" (so she says). Its a case of nepotism.
>bloodThere was an audible and visible squirt and the cut is to the bone. I do dissections, that is a fairly debilitating injury.
>The transporterAh yes the tool that is used in a plot for escaping planets and possibly fatal fuck-up episodes, including but not limited to
>losing your pattern and you're basically gone forever>turning you into a body horror monstrosity that dies a few seconds later (TMP)>teleporting you to a mirror universe where everyone is evil (TOS)>teleporting you out of phase so you're invisible and intangible to everything and everyone (TNG)>creating a perfect copy of you (TNG)>makeing you and another person perform the fusion dance (VOY)Should I go on?
>ST character succumbing to sepsis.Don't be obtuse, Star Trek has numerous diseases that are still uncurable, especially since Lower Decks is chronologically early in Federation history (STO era). Also that Bat'leth is definitely coated in dried blood, now that I look again.
>the point was to set up the charactersYes and when you set them up, you usually have something referring to the literal introduction of them. There isn't even a throw-away line like
- "How can I trust someone who literally slashed open my leg!?"
- "I said I was sorry, how many times are you going to keep bringing it up?!"
Literally that fucking easy, but they don't because continuity is a funny thought in this show outside of the most blatant of shit.
>see that she is reckless and dangerous, and that he is mild and a pushoverAnd how is the former a contradiction of what I said from the start? That is LITERALLY what I stated, the point is there is no backlash. Yes Star Trek medical tech is phenomenal, but it is still a potentially fatal injury yet has NO repercussions at all. Hell she doesn't even look concerned or feel sorry for fucking up past a single scream out of initial panic, not an actual thought, and then she goes right back to being an obnoxious shit-talker.
>when Riker was Q for a day>no one ever said to Riker after "Hey, remember that time you were a god?"But within the actual episode there was consistency. I'm not talking about the leg-slash being mentioned into next episode, but it's literally dismissed and forgotten in a minute. Ridiculous and out of place. We see no indication of time passing or any consequences, which Star Trek usually is consistent with.
>Last two "proper" Star Treks<Picard and Discovery
This is why you're either mental or a newfag, Picard and Discovery are exactly NOT proper Star Trek, none of it is consistent with older Star Trek, not even the tonally inconsistent DS9. This is noted by literally every Star Trek fan out there, and has been talked about within this thread as well. Lower Decks is consistent with Picard and Discovery in how they have characters behave, even if the tone isn't edgy; swearing, lax behavior, action-hero bullshit and other rubbish that belongs in a parody like Galaxy Quest (and did it better). A fairly good vid comparing Discovery and Lower Decks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mO34XjyA9I >LD feels like a pool of clean water after walking through shitLike I said, 'cause cartoons have lower expectations, and the lack of outright adult content taken seriously makes people not think.
>You just contradicted yourselfNope, He uses loopholes to do what is necessary and only defies them openly in exceptional circumstances that permit him to make such decisions.
>nearly all admirals are bad<goes against them
But its HOW he goes about it, whether capturing an admiral breaking the rules or whether it is to unroot a conspiracy or other things which justify his actions, not literal "fugg uthority" for no reason.
>Bureaucracy is a hindrance to human life and progress in all of Star TrekIt's also demonstrated to be important and save lives because playing hero doesn't work 90% of the time. Moreover DS9 justified Odo's actions, he wasn't "le rebel teen" but an experienced and professional crewmember.
>Sisko is even told off by his superiors for acting too much like an Emissary, rather than a Starfleet captainSometimes they're right. DS9 is not a good reference when they themselves are very inconsistent at times, and demonstrate notable fuck ups when not following the rules. Rules aren't there to annoy people, they're there for a reason, and in Star Trek, it generally is a good reason, even if some individual circumstances shown require these rules to be bent.