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 No.7537[Reply]

This video has some interesting takes
https://youtu.be/B3PewHEltpA
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 No.7539

>>10554
its actually not that bad from a marxist perspective, its almost like a childrens book made under socialist realism (except the "muh both sides" ending). Certainly better than harry potter.

Basically the capitol is an imperialist power subjugating its colonies by creating economic monocultures in the districts. It has a sophisticated culture industry that reinforces the subjugation of the districts.
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 No.7540

>>10554
>A thread died for this
And it's libshit by the way
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 No.7541

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>>10554
Shitty shit lib shit.
Liberal entertainment is garbage for smooth brain corporatists.
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 No.7542

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>>10556
It has good concepts, but it fails pretty badly in execution.
You could actually improve the movie and actually make it pretty damn interesting.
But truly, it's really just corporate trying to skimp out on costs by watering down their swill and then hoping to sell the consumers cheap hooch without them noticing it's crap.


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 No.7521[Reply]

Spoilers obviously
Was this Nolan's most reactionary film yet? The message of the film appears to be that future generations are all entitled brats who want to destroy the world to save themselves. The past should be preserved quite literally in this case at the expense of the future, who are all going to die of global warming. I think the future generations are right in this case. Fuck the boomers, global warming was their fault, and they would not hesitate to kill everyone before to save themselves so why should they?

Seemed like some references to the whole 'confederate statue' thing as well. This is the same guy who defended torture and mass surveillance. Elizabeth Debicki was hot as always though. Worth watching the movie just for her. That whole subplot was weird though, she didn't want to leave her abusive husband because he'd report her for art forgery? The level of threat there was not believable enough.

The movie as a movie is entertaining enough to watch at least once. The gimmick is enough to hold it up. I think everyone complaining that the sound mixing was too shit to hear anything is too focused on trying to understand something that's mostly an excuse for neat visual set pieces. That said, the climax of the film in that final battle was also the weakest part of the movie. It was difficult to tell who was shooting who and it looked like a scene out of inception.

Speaking of which I have trouble ranking this above or below inception. Inception had a stronger emotional core, Cobb was more of a character than "The Protagonist" but on the flipside(hah), Inception was still suffering from some halfway bullshit in terms of pacing. Rewatching that movie, it can drag heavily when they do exposition for an entire scene. In Tenet, Nolan and his editors seem to have perfected a style where every scene doesn't drag even though it can be exposition heavy.

This can be to a fault – the already mentioned plot point that future generations are going to invert the entire flow of time in a last ditch attempt to escape the end of the world due to climate change – is something that in any other movie would be treated as a major revelation. You'd have a scene of the main characters reacting to the news and thinking through the implications. The pacing in this movie is so scene-to-scene though that it's only explored once at the very end by the antagonist. Nolan leaves a lot of meat on the bone.

Which again, iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.7532

I watched it and I barely remember what happened.
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 No.7533

>>10276
>Literally the only good thing about Interstellar was the time-dilation plot-point
So…half the movie?
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 No.7534

>>10711
1) if only 1/2 the movie was any good, that makes it still pretty shit
2) I said the plot point was good, meaning that the science was technically correct… that doesn't make it any less boring or pretentious
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 No.7535

>>10255
>That whole subplot was weird though, she didn't want to leave her abusive husband because he'd report her for art forgery? The level of threat there was not believable enough.
It was mainly because he would take her child away.
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 No.7536



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 No.4356[Reply]

Discuss.
Dune discussion general.

https://youtu.be/jJj2yHM3d3Y
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 No.4429

>>4427
>How?
The Baron being homosexual?
Him raping male family members being Canon?
Duncan Idaho losing his shit at the Lesbian Fishspeaker orgy?
Herbert disowning his own gay son?
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 No.4430

>>4428
agree about paul
the fremen is a little harder to pull off, and unlike the harkonnens they are supposed to be approachable to the movie audience so you can't make them too weird

>>4429
i don't think you understand the "coding" part of queer coding
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 No.4431

>>4430
>the fremen is a little harder to pull off, and unlike the harkonnens they are supposed to be approachable to the movie audience so you can't make them too weird
But the Fremen are very weird, they have glowing blue spice eyes as well as strangely brutal social rituals and the book spends a lot of time unraveling their mysteries, almost like they're an alien species. Dune always seemed like it played with the concept of humans that aren't entirely human anymore, that they were changed by their environments in the dune universe.
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 No.4432

>>4426
>>4427
>>4430
Ok, guys I'm just baiting. I fucking love Dune and I've read all six books. It's just that as a relatively old scifi novel it suffers from the prejudices of its time and I just think there has to be some kind of of discussion about that.
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 No.4433

I have watched the IMAX preview and let me tell you that this movie is very different from what I have seen in a long time. It doesn't feel like Star Wars, Star Gate, Star Trek or whatever with its scale and its modern and otherworldly aethetics, it is going to be completely overwrite of what was regarded as 'Dune' before, no one is going to ever talk about the Lynch film ever again. This movie IS Dune now. The Guild ships, the spice harvester scene, holy shit. I really can't wait to see the whole movie.


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 No.995[Reply]

Going to dump some turn up songs from my youth here. Feel free to drop some as well.
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 No.1019

>No Michael Jackson
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 No.1020

>>9807
https://youtu.be/RdG9xzJMchM
Money makes hearts turn cold, friends turn foes
When jewelry get froze, women turn hoes
Some people turn snitch, and state evidence
Damn this money is a son of a bitch
Don't you know it makes the good die young
Money buy guns, because paranoia comes
Along with those bucks
You better watch your back, your side and your front
Because money is a weapon, it'll fuck you up
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 No.1021



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 No.7505[Reply]

I had to just vent this somewhere. Spoilers below of course.

Overall this is a good movie, I think it did what it set out to do quite well, but it is basically a reactionary and insular view of existential dread and depression through aging.

The director is actually very forthcoming about what the film is "really" about, so there isn't much interpretation except death of the author alternate versions of what the movie was about. Kaufman said the movie is mostly the fantasies of the janitor, who is kind of trying to escape his regret and depression by imagining a better life. But in the process, he is basically so depressed and broken that he can't even achieve that. Kaufman kind of suggests he is interested in a wider notion that it can't be achieved at all, but within the movie it is specifically the janitor who can't fantasize. His own fantasy girlfriend kind of looks down on him, isn't totally interested in him, wants to leave him. He can't decide what her name is, how they met, what her career is. He keeps changing his mind about what happens on the night that they go meet his parents. He even inserts himself into his own fantasy as a creep, when the girl and the janitor's younger self kiss in the car and suddenly the younger self notices the janitor peering at them and rages that there is a pervert watching them. Ultimately the movie ends with the janitor killing himself by getting in his car during the blizzard and not turning it on.

So maybe it is obvious why this movie feels like it has a very liberal or even reactionary message, but I'll spell it out anyways. The director, Kaufman, is kind of a pretentious guy. I like a lot of his movies, but he is very concerned with existential crises and memory and identity and stuff. He is a good filmmaker, but I want to highlight how his focus is kind of idealist. I think he has very metaphysical notions of what drives human beings to behave and think the way they do, so to him this movie isn't about a depressed janitor so much as about the human condition. However, the movie is literally about a depressed janitor. Not only that, but the movie has several key lines in it that feel like they almost directly confront and endorse the concrete form the movie takes.

Basically, the movie explores this guy's regret and depression by kind of suggesting that there is no resolution to it, it is just a part of the human condition to have regrets and fear aging. The viewer just watchPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.7516

It's ok.
You don't have to fight it anymore.
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 No.7517

What the maggot-infested pig hallucination says is not meant to be taken as the film's own position. It might as well be taken as the janitor's cynical self-hatred, saying it for the sake of hurting himself more. Or maybe it's a cope.
IMO the whole film is clearly a collage of conflicting thoughts and emotions that the janitor can't control, and it's impossible to single one of them as the explanation for the rest. Maybe the point of the film is that we're inescapably pathetic, fake and delusional, which is also Kaufman's shtick in his other films it seems.
If that's really the case then the film's point is very weak indeed. At best the film is an existential amusement park ride. Existentialism for the sake of dread, because that's what existentialists enjoy more than anything else.
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 No.7518

YMS just did a summary on this movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9Zv-rpWzs
gotta say from what i've seen, looks like people are right and the pigs and things are his own self hatred, not so much an endorsement of the movie itself. That said, seems like a movie that's very individualistic and about self-reflection. Even under socialism, some people are just going to end up feeling subjectively unfulfilled and linger on 'what ifs'
So it doesn't seem so bad to me in regard to capitalist ideology
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 No.7519

what a weak bish honestly. I think about killing myself daily and I'm not even 30
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 No.7520

>>10383
Imagine not killing your self.


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 No.7482[Reply]

How based was this show? And, do you have faith that the reboot will do any justice to the previous seasons?
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 No.7500

Half the Tubesteak promos were based.

>>9642

>Apparently Aaron ran out of steam on a personal level and that's part of why season 4 sucked
Pretty sure he wasn't even involved in Season 4
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=aaron%20mcgruder%20season%204
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 No.7501

>>11160
Tbh I think it is leftist, it’s just that the current generation of leftists probably can’t comprehend the world of the post-Soviet collapse
Remember, Cockshott himself writes that around the 90s most leftists had given in and accepted the supremacy of liberalism and the Market. I think Boondocks is representative of that first generation having grown up when neoliberalism came to power and defeated the worldwide socialist movement.
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 No.7502

>>12683
He wasn’t, Season 3 was his last season and the producers themselves wrote 4 because they didn’t want it to end, a lot of fans think the sole quality episode in that season was written by McGruger himself, he just didn’t reveal it.
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 No.7503

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris#District_Attorney_of_San_Francisco_(2004%E2%80%932011)
>Harris ran a "forceful" campaign, assisted by former mayor Willie Brown, Senator Dianne Feinstein, writer and cartoonist Aaron McGruder, and comedians Eddie Griffin and Chris Rock.
>writer and cartoonist [b]Aaron McGruder[/b]
OH NO NO NO
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 No.7504

>>12970
Eh, it was obvious he was a radlib, I never read into him as more than that TBH, based thoughts or not.


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 No.3546[Reply]

I've seen only a few other threads about horror on here and they seemed too specific, so I thought I'd make a broader one.

How do you feel about the current state of horror media? To me it seems at it's always been in a way; a mixed bag. However I feel like I've noticed this trend and, correct me if you think I'm wrong, a lot of more successful recent horror seems to be more creator-driven than in the past.

This is natural I think, as the internet has opened a lot of opportunities for more unique visions and riskier decisions that large studios would otherwise reject.

In a strange sort of symbiosis, though, these large studios attempt to acquire these successful creators and even properties for themselves; see the phenomenon of Slenderman for example. Once an entirely community made, solely internet creation has gotten several of his own movies, and has by and large become an 'artifact' of sorts of 2010's-era web. Studios cannibalize these unique properties and, once they've made some modicum of a profit, utterly destroy the integrity of them, leaving communities to look for the next big thing in horror.

With that aside, feel free to discuss almost literally anything horror related here; movies, books, ARGs, games, creepypasta (the rare good kind, if you can find any).
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 No.3579

>>3575
Fucking based
I never watched the movie and always felt uncomfortable how much pol liked this movie but lmfao they got project muh jews onto everything
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 No.3580

>>3579
>I never watched the movie
Why haven't you seen it? You should, and also watch Zizek's funny commentary on it.
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 No.3581

>>3580
The movie is great were can I watch zizeks commentary?
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 No.3582

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 No.3583

>>3574
I got the feeling that they were satirizing something (that I can't put into words because I'm ESL) at the end of The World's End too.
Has someone else felt like this when watching Hot Fuzz? It's the only one I haven't watched recently so I wouldn't remember if there was anything that could be considered commentary on capitalism.


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 No.7342[Reply]

Aight, so I've heard folks talking about how lazy a certain "toon-boom" style is, I just wanted to hear opinions and show off some art I made
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 No.7432

>>10387
stay mad
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 No.7433

the best way to animate is just draw lots of wojaks
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 No.7434

I don't give a fuck about whatever styles cartoons have these days, I'm more concerned about executive meddling and the neverending exploitation of animators and writers.
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 No.7435

>>11443
> executive meddling and the neverending exploitation of animators and writers.
So something that gets solved by capitalism being eliminated then.
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 No.7436

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Getting back on topic.

The biggest entertainment name in history would have enough resources to not recycle animation cycles nowadays. Particularly when it is entirely CGI.

I mean… back in the day? When you had to hand draw each and every cell of animation? Yeah, I can see being cheap, or at least not wanting to cramp you hand over and over again while drawing it all.

But Frozen is a question of base character design when you can make rigs and shit, right? I realize it is likely more complicated than it looks, but you still start with a base model that simplifies things greatly that you can just copy and paste between scenes.


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 No.7253[Reply]

So my grandma lived in Lithuania back when it was an SSR (She says she was born right after ww2 for reference) and she liked the movies there, from what I can gather they were family friendly affairs similar to the first pirates of the carribean in tone, any comments and maybe recomendations for old soviete media?
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 No.7337

>>12064
by media i meant cartoons
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 No.7338

>>12064
I frankly don't see why. The animation is neat, the short stories are never crass or outright stupid and it's fairly good at carrying across fixtures of Russian culture.
It's also a show aimed at 2-6 year olds, so it's not exactly meant to be comparable to a more mature cartoon work.
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 No.7339

>>12066
i didnt like it either, my favorite was nu pogodi that was the best
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 No.7340

>>12069
The irony being that Nu Pogodi imitated Tom and Jerry with Russian characteristics, rather than being it's own format.
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 No.7341

>>12075
Why the hell are my posts saged for no fuckin' reason!?


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 No.7242[Reply]

thoughts on Mad Men? It is easily my favorite TV show of all time.
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 No.7248

Poor man The Sopranos
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 No.7249

>>7852
It has no similarity to the Sopranos except by aesthetic, the Sopranos are a totally different subject.
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 No.7250

>>7036
I felt the writers were a little too in love with Don, he's supposed to be this deeply flawed character living a paper thin life, but just about every episode gives him an opportunity for a grand gesture of forgiveness or charity. I guess his arc lacked weight to me because of how often he's shown to genuinely be the most well adjusted person in the room.
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 No.7251

>>8054
Agreed. I like how they did my girl peggy at the end though, when Don let her step forward and take the wheel.

Also is Draper wordfiltered here?
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 No.7252

>>8054
That's kind of the point, he's a mostly good guy suffering from imposter syndrome, he's not the equivalent of a tony soprano type.


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