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 No.2937

Post Soviet era paintings and propoganda posters
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 No.2938

>>10604
>inb4 modernoid cope about abstract art and picasso
daily reminder picasso and the rest of non-realist artists are just shit and use art as a money laundering front.
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 No.2939

>>10605
>muh money laundering meme
Read a book
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 No.2940

Can we avoid another autistic debate and post actual art
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 No.2941

File: 1608526588180-0.jpg ( 189.63 KB , 714x1024 , 349859nhb7.jpg )

File: 1608526588180-2.jpg ( 66.76 KB , 733x555 , Stalin4.jpg )

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 No.2942

>>10605
Anti-modernist Marxists are an embarrassment to their creed.
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 No.2943

File: 1608526588438-0.jpg ( 1.64 MB , 1693x2547 , soviet-space-program-propa….jpg )

File: 1608526588438-1.jpg ( 159.63 KB , 550x1109 , soviet-space-program-propa….jpg )

File: 1608526588438-2.jpg ( 200.55 KB , 1500x779 , We-will-open-the-distant-w….jpg )

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 No.2944

File: 1608526588685-1.jpg ( 177.35 KB , 550x844 , soviet-space-program-propa….jpg )

File: 1608526588686-2.jpg ( 387.45 KB , 550x812 , soviet-sppg.jpg )

>>10610
Middle one is my absolute favorite.
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 No.2945

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 No.2946

>>10604
Wtf?
Bernie Sanders was in the Soviet Union?!
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 No.2947

>>10606
>WOWZERS TRIANGLES AND LINE SO HECKLIN BOOTIFUL
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 No.2948

>>10609
>creed
marxism isn't a religion. Also why should marxists just accept bourgeois modernist ideology anyways? glow harder
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 No.2949

I have really come to appreciate socialist realism, it has produced some unique, unparalleled art that transports real messages. Its not just all Stalin forever.
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 No.2950

>>10616
Idem, thi shit is meaningful. It has an inherent positivity off the chart, is like the anti doom for me.
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 No.2951

>>10615
Why should Marxists accept conservative notions of art? It's as much bourgeois ideology as Modernism if not more.
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 No.2952

>>10616
I don't like socialist realist art personally, but there is definitely some really good shit in there mixed with the not so good shit
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 No.2953

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 No.2954

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 No.2955

File: 1608526590175.jpg ( 159.54 KB , 736x978 , 711bf9b38117b953527a496b83….jpg )

Not sure if this one counts,but I thought it looks really cool
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 No.2956

File: 1608526590292-0.jpg ( 822.59 KB , 1920x1331 , drawing chad-leatherdom-bo….jpg )

File: 1608526590292-1.jpg ( 794.66 KB , 1400x2000 , soviet bolshevik in winter….jpg )

File: 1608526590292-2.jpg ( 120.59 KB , 759x607 , soviet union parade painti….jpg )

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 No.2957

>>10605
Picasso was a comrade though. He also did do realist paintings.
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 No.2958

File: 1608526590644-0.jpg ( 112.27 KB , 383x800 , art_52_01_03.jpg )

File: 1608526590644-1.jpg ( 174.51 KB , 900x479 , art_52_01_04.jpg )

File: 1608526590644-2.jpg ( 118.59 KB , 352x800 , art_52_01_05.jpg )

GELY KORZHEV: Tryptych “Communists”
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 No.2959

File: 1608526590821-0.jpg ( 127.81 KB , 800x476 , 800px-mosca41.jpg )

File: 1608526590821-1.png ( 1.12 MB , 1200x1773 , 1200px-Operation_Uranus.sv….png )

>>16976
1:39 in that ballet is when shit gets real. Music to wage a Stalingrad winter strategic counteroffensive to
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 No.2960

File: 1608526591014-1.jpg ( 262.32 KB , 800x604 , art_52_01_18.jpg )

>>10625
Does anyone know the story of the one with Lenin? The Blind Man on the right seems like a folklore figure.

>>16976

Based
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 No.2961

File: 1608526591144.jpg ( 61.78 KB , 500x682 , 1598916476353.jpg )

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 No.2962

>>16976
This is amazing
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 No.2963

where are my constructivist homies at
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 No.2964

post related >>10643
checked for based trips
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 No.2965

File: 1608526596055.jpg ( 12.97 KB , 293x400 , peasant in field.jpg )

>>10627
That first pic is so beautiful and haunting to me. A chilling reminder that the struggle will transcend and live on through even our own deaths. In a way our fallen comrades past hand the spear and the rifle down through the ages and the rotations of the Earth to those of us that still walk among the living. All those who fight will join our old friends in bone and dust, while our finest moments of proletarian struggle will live on forever crystallized in time. A humble shrine of worship to our human race. As so as we rest upon our sacred deeds, we hand the rifle down to the next generation of communists, to die a worthy death and join us in sanctimonious peace.
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 No.2966

File: 1608526596835-0.jpg ( 2.11 MB , 1478x1920 , tatlinstower.jpg )

File: 1608526596835-1.jpg ( 337.81 KB , 1276x1181 , iofanspalace.jpg )

>>10605
Failing to distinguish modern from contemporary art is the quickest way anyone can out themselves as a philistine. Please, for the love of God, read an art history book. When it comes to Russian art, the decade following 1917 was in the hands of the Constructivists, who had much more interesting things to say about the "function" or "purpose" of art than any of the Socialist Realist painters that would come to replace them. I don't see how complaining about "abstract art and picasso" helps us formulate a critique of art as financial asset. Hell, if you actually wanted to talk about art—both in terms of labor and value, then the Constructivists would be a great starting point.
>>10615
Because the early Soviet Union at its best was fundamentally a modernist project! Back then, it was certain high-ranking party members' insistence on maintaining a sense of "heritage" in the post-revolutionary "proletarian culture" that many artists themselves had deemed bourgeois and sought to reject. They failed, and so we got 30+ years of Socialist Realism under Stalin instead; it's just Neoclassicism draped in red. If you want an illustration of this degeneration, then compare Tatlin's Tower (1920) with Iofan's Palace of the Soviets (1932). The former represents world revolution, while the latter shows a revolution being put on hold.
>>10616
As much I hate on it, I have to agree. I learned to appreciate it more by reading Boris Groys. Russian art critics always provide unique perspectives.
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 No.2967

File: 1608526662382.jpg ( 2.07 MB , 3000x1780 , e5a3790db7c6639a3ca75f7df9….jpg )

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 No.2968

File: 1608526662740.jpg ( 38.65 KB , 600x315 , Bruegel Younger Babel.jpg )

>>10663
>Tatlins Tower
Am I the only one who sees similarities to depictions of Babel's Tower?
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 No.2969

>>10663
I'm sorry but Tatlin's Tower just looks like a rollercoaster to me
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 No.2970

File: 1608526664741-0.jpg ( 313.2 KB , 1754x1240 , diagram-brief.jpg )

File: 1608526664741-1.jpg ( 5.18 MB , 4500x5811 , tt.jpg )

>>11231
You're not alone. Some Indonesian architects thought similarly in their re-imagination of it a couple years ago.
>>11233
That would've been a pretty massive rollercoaster, lol. I always thought it looked more like a large telescope or artillery piece. Tatlin's Tower was also known as the "Monument to the Third International" and if built was meant to serve as their new headquarters, all the while rivaling other monuments to modernity such as the Eiffel Tower and Statue of Liberty. It's hard to get a sense of scale because most architectural renders of it look like miniatures.
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 No.2971

>>10613
Well yeah, he spent his honeymoon there
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 No.2972

>>11243
Its certainly a weird design. I cant say I'm not interested though
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 No.2973

File: 1608526794161-0.jpg ( 447.97 KB , 1310x2000 , cri_000000068931.jpg )

File: 1608526794161-1.jpg ( 431.47 KB , 1345x2000 , cri_000000006114.jpg )

File: 1608526794161-2.jpg ( 518.38 KB , 2000x1292 , cri_000000068821.jpg )

File: 1608526794161-3.jpg ( 467.97 KB , 2000x1313 , cri_000000068820.jpg )

Kind of want to buy a book filled with Chernikov sketches
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 No.2974

>>12193
There's some in this pdf but it still isn't the best
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 No.2975

File: 1608526794794-0.jpg ( 46.35 KB , 348x512 , unnamed.jpg )

El Lissitzky
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 No.2976

>>10604
Anyone have that air-launch tower monument? Can't find it
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 No.2977

>>11243
>>10663
Is the tower's design supposed to convey the history of class struggle with its peak representing communism, like in those diamat diagrams? If so that's pretty clever but I imagine it would've gone over a lot of people's heads.
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 No.2978

File: 1608526811351-0.jpg ( 17.89 KB , 220x322 , heg2.jpg )

>>12327 (me)
I'm of course talking about something like these two pics.
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 No.2979

>>12327
>>12328
>>10663
Alternatively, designing major architecture in the form of a diagram provides anybody in the vicinity with a handy diagram they can use to explain the idea a bit. Being weirdly shaped tends to provoke curiosity which is a great opportunity to explain what's being diagrammed.
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 No.2980

File: 1608526814657-0.jpg ( 150.56 KB , 730x911 , dd09b22a632ac1741ab26400e9….jpg )

File: 1608526814657-2.jpg ( 78.98 KB , 780x520 , chernikov-tecnne...jpg )

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 No.2981

>>10627
probably rasputin's grandfather
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 No.2982

>go on leftypol
>they think a valid criticism of NatSoc is "muh aesthetics"
>At the end of the day they're still children swept away by appearance and form like anyone else
You try to maintain a constant smug and condescending tone and then slip up all the time with your bullshit.
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 No.2983

you can go on pastvu.com and pick paintings layer instead of photos

there are many
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 No.2984

Spengler. He thought that you could see the difference between civilizations in their art and mathematics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_the_West

&lt Apollonian Civilization is focused around Ancient Greece and Rome. Spengler saw its world view as being characterized by appreciation for the beauty of the human body, and a preference for the local and the present moment.

&lt Magian Civilization includes the Jews from about 400BC, early Christians and various Arabian religions up to and including Islam. Its world feeling revolved around the concept of world as cavern, epitomized by the domed Mosque, and a preoccupation with essence. Spengler saw the development of this civilization as being distorted by too influential presence of older cultures, the initial vigorous expansionary impulses of Islam being in part a reaction against this.

&lt Faustian Civilization began in Western Europe around the 10th century and according to Spengler such has been its expansionary power that by the 20th century it was covering the entire earth, with only a few Regions where Islam provides an alternative world view. The world feeling of Faustian civilization is inspired by the concept of infinitely wide and profound space, the yearning towards distance and infinity.

A gothic cathedral that strives for height can be seen as Faustian. And a Greek sculpture that focuses on the body and can be seen from multiple angles can be seen as apollonian. Greek mathematics was this closed Euclidian space, whereas contemporary mathematics is boundless.

But at a cursory glance, there are some discrepancies. For instance, the Khmer probably invented the zero.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22313665-finding-zero

And the Hindu mathematics and religion is all about this really huge and really small numbers. For instance, the Kali Yuga (the shortest and the worst of them) is supposed to last 432000 years. So in comparison to Spengler's idea that a civilization last for 1000 years, he's peanuts. So Spengler basically says that the reason civilization X didn't do Y wasn't the lack of knowledge nor agency, but that they rather didn't want to
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 No.2985

>>12195
>>12194
>>12193
I love constructivism. Any more?

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