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 No.8760[View All]

Hi,

The incredibly based military junta ran by myself has decided on a number of reforms that will improve the way mods act and the way users are allowed to provide input to moderators.

Part of the thing that started this all was Zul taking a proposal to increase oversight of the mod team from some people in the matrix chat and implementing itself because he thought it was absolutely necessary for the team to continue functioning. We are going to implement most of those reforms, and some others aimed at resolving the differences in moderation styles that has been at the center of some of these conflicts.

For starters:

1. A new matrix room to replace lefypol congress will be put together with through vetting of the users in it, and in that room users will be able to directly vote and make suggestions to the mod team. The counterpart to this on the website will be /assembly/, which is the mod voting board. This board should be made open to the public and turned into a general suggestion and discussion bin while /meta/ is for more technical and specific issues regarding the site and moderation.

2. There will always be the potential of gridlock and drama in a mod team that is sharply divided, so whenever an issue that causes incredible opposition from half the team or even a minority of the team the first thing to do should be to poll the users and get input in the new matrix chat or the /assembly/ board. Input will also be requested for new admissions to the vol team and new vols might also be drawn from that matrix room.

The objective is to have an authentically user run management part of this website with a direct line to the vol team.

3. If all else fails and the opinion of the majority of the mod team seems to be sharply divorced from the opinion of the users, the matrix chat can simply vote on allowing a mod to override the rest of the mod team even if that mod is in the minority opinion. The watermelon military junta only happened because I and some others believed that the site itself was threatened by the degree of dysfunction in the mod team, and in the future overriding mods who like voting on things like this should have some basis in an established system.




thoughts on this?
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 No.9173

https://matrix.to/#/#Leftypol:matrix.org

this is a room for users to enter, in the event that the wreckers nuke the board, this is where we congregate.
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 No.9174

>>9173
You're the wrecker, dipshit.
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 No.9175

>>9174
wanting user participation isn't wrecking. If you think its wrecking, its because you think you and only you should have control over the board
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 No.9176

>>9173
edited post for correct link to actual hoxhaist bunker room users should join to avoid the site going down.
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 No.9177

>>9169
It's amazing the amount of time some people will invest in making work harder for others.
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 No.9178

>>9145
So you're telling me there have been literal redditors on the mod team all along?
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 No.9179

>>9164
I reiterate my critique: >>8944 and append some development:
>Note, this will have nothing to do with what they actually say, rather it will only be based on the manner in which they say it, and after they have demonstrating more than a passing interest
This seems to me a naive view. If you do not take some account of what people say, you give carte blanche to obsessives to push their case to the detriment of the board as a whole. Instead of having democratic representation for the board as a whole, you have a relatively narrow group of representatives which is already subject to the selective pressure of "Is willing to use GNU/Discord".

As the situation appears to be a fait accompli, I make the following practical suggestion: Have, pinned on /leftypol/, a feedback thread, much like the existing one on meta but broader in scope. Incorporate the discussions of the posters union within it so that board users can give their feedback. This is, being an anonymous board, vulnerable to samefagging and so on. But moderators and Matrix users alike can at least take account of the arguments presented, and should Matrix gang and the modocracy find themselves in accord in a way disagreeable to the userbase of the actual board, it would provide an actual outlet. If we are to have a union on this model, at least give us commoners a union hall in which to meet.

Furthermore (and this is the root of some of my concern with the union concept): I would argue that the recent problems of /leftypol/ have primarily been undermoderation, not overmoderation. (My three point plan in that regard would be as follows: Aggressively ban idpol threads even on /b/ (specifically I would underscore ones about transgenderism.), aggressively ban soyjaking, and "push" avatar users to make Aliyah to /GET/). Overmoderation is a risk, especially if we go down the route of self important sectarian pettiness, but the difficulty is not in "More or less" but in what, specifically is moderated. But there is a vocal, obsessive little group of people who wish to sail us into both the Scylla of "Chan Culure" undermoderation and the Charybdis of sectarian overmoderation. If they're given the time of day by the moderator team or the union, the site is doomed.
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 No.9180

>>9178
yeah basically. I don't know if they're actually redditors but their views seem fairly similar to reddit leftism to me. They were good at concealing their views though.

>>9179
screencapping this post so i can show it to other mods if the board gets fucked. I agree with most of this.
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 No.9181

>>9179
I accept your first points about unions, and as an IRL union member am very sympathetic to them, and will endeavour that such a situation does not happen. In fact, I happen to think that member engagment is specifically the thing that gives a union power, and without it, it becomes weakened and pointless. You can read about why this is in Jane Macaleveys book: No Shortcuts.

I reject your point about the site being under moderated, however. Regardless, I urge you to join the union and argue thusly
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 No.9182

>>9177
>>9180
>yeah basically. I don't know if they're actually redditors but their views seem fairly similar to reddit leftism to me. They were good at concealing their views though.
Ahemmm,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bro, with all due respect, the lib that can't even define a proper idpol definition and believes laws can be objective and universal, uygha don't call others redditors, especially not mods who are more competent than you in every way. Thanks.
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 No.9183

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Can you spergs just get your shit together? Nobody cares about your petty personal feuds. Just do your fucking jobs, do them for free and be glad about it.
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 No.9184

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Glad to see the "junta" larpers have added 2 users they have groomed into this "union" truly a step towards a democratic leftypol
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 No.9185

>>9182
>with all due respect
no respect is due seriously what is this shit, why can't we behave like adults?
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 No.9186

>>9184
Before there was zero count ZERO posters who could vote. Now there are several. Stop concern trolling, there is more poster representation than there has ever been, ever. If you had your way, there would be none again
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 No.9187

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>>9183
This

To all the mods, fuck you. We all have the same goal of communism, it may be a little bit different from each other. But we can't hyper divide ourselves on this bullshit. All you retards need to do is stop the avatarfaggotry, and crack down on the blatant /pol/ bait threads that get 300+ posts in a few hours. Stop the bullshit so the board can get back to business as usual.
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 No.9188

>>436808
Completely wrong, there was broad consensus that greater board democracy was needed and the “coup” ists I.e revolutionaries, have provided that
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 No.9189

>>9186
why do you think we had the congress room sage? You are not gods green gift to earth. Just because you are labelled mr head of the nuleftypol democracy by the junta larpers doesn't mean that everything you touch turns into uncorrupted user power
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 No.9190

>>9186
Shut the fuck up, faggot. You only participate in site administration when the site is in crisis and for the worst.

Where have you been literally EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY, that the mod team was not being couped.

SAGE IS AN OPPORTUNIST
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 No.9191

Easy solution to all this autistic retardation: site owner owns the site, site owner says what happens.
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 No.9192

>>436808
This, unfortunately drama faggots have no boundaries, it is a shame they were ever given power in the first place
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 No.9193

>>9191
There is no site owner. Everyone has a role in the mod team. One of the mods pays for the hosting. That's the limitation of bourgeois institutions. There's no going around that. That mod is entrusted with site "ownership" on behalf of the entire community. It isn't his property.
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 No.9194

>>9189
Congress was mod owned not poster owned. Next
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 No.9195

>>9191
>t. site owner
t. site owner
actually zer0 is not the site owner only the sysadmin, he is the janny with barrack obama powers
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 No.9196

>>9194
So you want a chat that's has your name attached to it? What the fuck matter who owns the fucking thing you fucking opportunist?
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 No.9197

>>9190
I have literally posted about the site moderation in some form almost every day. I spent a long time trying to build a union which you mods deleted. Go ahead lie and say you didn’t, but you did and that’s a fact
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 No.9198

>>9194
you are just a cumsock for the junta mods, they were bemoaning you just a few days ago
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 No.9199

>>9196
No I want a chat owned by posters and not mods to discuss the board. If you weren’t in complete denial about the whole situation of mod clique domination you could easily see the difference. I can’t openly discuss the board if some mod can delete my comments about how they run the board and regularly do. I don’t expect you to understand as you are obvisouly a mod and not a poster so we have different interests, mine is nice board to post on, yours is flexing control
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 No.9200

>>9197
Sage's steps to success:
>Step 1: wait for a coup, do not participate in site administration until a coup happens (important)
>Step 2: side with the minority
>Step 3: agitate for a matrix chat where sage is admin, "for the users!"
>Step 4: wreck! (The fun part)
>Step 5: once things have settled down, ignore the "users union", you can now go back to not doing any work towards site administration.

Here's a piece of truth: your opportunism knows no bounds.

No work, no vote. You haven't done shit to help the site. Keep fomenting dissent, retard. On a leftist site of all places. Nothing but a wrecker.
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 No.9201

>436853
<click
<add filter
<name
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 No.9202

>>9198
And yet, they have engaged with me like no mods have ever. You should try it some time. One of them has in fact been asking me to join the mod team for quite some time now, but that is completely unrelated. If you find yourself without allies, ask why that is
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 No.9203

>>9201
this kills the attentionfag
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 No.9204

>>9200
So you’re just going to completely ignore the substance of the post and spam the same nonsensical bollocks you have already posted, then call me a wrecker.

I ask again how is it wrecking to add some posters to the voting pool which is literally all that has happened.
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 No.9205

>>9196
If it makes no difference, why are you so opposed to it? Can’t have it both ways chum
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 No.9206

>>9204
>How is opportunist wrecking during coups wrecking?
Namefag, plz.
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 No.9207

It's a forum, not a commune. Touch grass.
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 No.9208

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>TIME FOR MOD DRAMA!
>ANOTHER SPLIT SOON FELLOW RETARDS!
Sometimes I wish 4chan would have a /leftypol/ board
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 No.9209

>>9206
So you don’t have an actual reason why adding posters to the voting pool, which is literally all that has happened, is wrecking
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 No.9210

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Control Over Site Domain Wrested From The Putschists
In a stunning endeavor made possible by site admin Antinous, control over leftypol.org's domain has been lost by highest authority of the /leftypol/ August Coup, site admin zer0. This means that not only do the rebellious janitors effectively control site moderation by constituting the majority, they now have control over the site domain. How the situation will develop from this is anyones guess at this point, but this will surely be a significant gain for the opponents of the coup.

This information was made possible by yours truly, Noose Anon π.0, a shameless News Anon ripoff. Original character, do not steal. All Rights Reserved (C) 2021.
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 No.9211

>>9210
it's a forum, not a commune. touch grass.
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 No.9212

>>9187
Thank you anon good fucking damn is it so hard to just do what this guy says. What happened to no Sectraianism.
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 No.9213

>>9187
Back to /pol/, incel schizo.
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 No.9214

>>9210
>anon making zul look like good person
gays
>there's now a third faction with Antinous
fuk
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 No.9215

>>9208
>Sometimes I wish 4chan would have a /leftypol/ board
No. pls go back to there
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 No.9216

>>9164
stfu sage
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 No.9217

>>9212
I think you should be a janny, Posadas flag, you're a sensible one.
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 No.9218

>>9137
this

>>9132
no not really in the end toast overacted and simp for soy posts that soy users don't even care about
>>434302, it was removed because of the fear of doxing and to others mods it could lead into it from what caballo and water said
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 No.9219

>>9135
most likely

>>9141
no u
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 No.9220

>>9214
>there's now a third faction with Antinous
Any proof that this constitutes a third faction? Or has his allegiances been made clear prior to gaining this access now?
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 No.9221

>>9156
it could lead into that type of shit and lq posting is what lead him to delete it
he says he does this for everyone even for haz
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 No.9222

>>9220
just my take >>9210

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