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Tiny homes, mini houses etc, are sheds. They take advantage of a legal loophole that says you don't have to comply with any building codes if you build below a certain square footage.
They are burger poverty dressed up as something trendy.

>>31
that's smaller than a soviet Dacha, which was something like a tiny vacation home that a normal prole family in the Soviet Union could afford.

>>33(me)
i messed up the pictures

>>32
The OP looks like a classic mobile home

I think it's a peak into the future of dystopia.

>>33
>normal prole family could afford a dacha
lol no

>>40
I wish I could afford a tiny home.

it's not bourgeois lifestylism it's millennial desperation

>>44
This.

>>22652
yes

>>22650
Mobile homes are much bigger than tiny homes.

>>22657
Why aren't mobile homes technologically advancing more ? You' think that by now all mobile homes would be like an origami fold out house that expands 3 to 5 fold.

>>22658
>Why aren't mobile homes technologically advancing more ?
The whole point of a mobile home is to save money.

>>22660
>The whole point of a mobile home is to save money.
How does that contradict the fold out thing ? You ought to able to make a use of folding structures to reduce the vehicle size for budget campers as well.

>>22661
Technology advances start off as bonus gadgets in high end products and then market forces make them cheaper and more refined until they filter down into everything else. Things like anti lock brakes and lane tracking and voice commands were first introduced in the S Class decades ago to lure millionaires away from Bentley. And now market competition has brought us to the point where they are cheap and reliable enough to be standard in every pleb car.

Whats different about camper vans is there isn't much of a market for super high end models where innovation can happen because anyone who could afford it will just buy a fucking house. Or a yacht.

The other thing to think about is living in a van is cold. So a folding van will probably be even colder.

>>22662
You'd think capitalism would have developed and perfected plop out buildings to completely commodify houses, on their own.

Am i right in the assumption that you are saying that for campers to have technological evolution they need to get better insulation and somebody needs to find a different clientele than wealthy private individuals that can pay for early research and development cost. That leaves the Military upgrading their field tents with fold out buildings or governments who want emergency facilities that they can more or less instantly erect wherever. Who else ?

>>22663
>You'd think capitalism would have developed and perfected plop out buildings to completely commodify houses, on their own.
The problem with housing is that mortgages are provided by banks and banks are artificially propped up by government no matter how badly they act. Banks are not allowed to fail and go out of business because angry citizens who lost all their money will start a revolution. So housing is not really subject to the rules of the free market.

>for campers to have technological evolution
My point is that innovations are typically established in luxury products with high margins and then the market figures out how to make it cheaper over time. Campers don't seem to have a very big luxury market so that could be why innovation is slow. Somehow the new thing needs to be made cheap right away otherwise there is no one to sell to. That's my theory.

>Military
>emergency facilities
The problem with government projects is they are spending other people's money so nobody involved generally cares about the quality of the end result. I guess you're thinking along the right lines though, identify similar products and see what can technology can be moved over.

>better insulation
I don't know what you can do about that because space is so limited. The stuff they insulate brick houses with wouldn't even fit into something drivable. I knew a contractor who lived in a van and he couldn't do it in winter. He just worked 6 months and then lived in a cheap warm country for the other 6 months.

>>22664
>The problem with housing is that mortgages are provided by banks and banks are artificially propped up by government
I get it, it's almost like a feudal arrangement the way power is entrenched, but that would not actually stop people from buying and living in the plop out houses assuming that mass-production with a lot of automation in factories can make it cheap and of good quality.
>My point is that innovations are typically established in luxury products with high margins
Yeah but you said that rich people don't give a shit about this. So forget about the luxury segment.
>The problem with government projects is they are spending other people's money so nobody involved generally cares about the quality of the end result.
That's not a problem that can't be overcome, just create a unconditional return policy for quality control issues. That way even for a bureaucracy that doesn't give a shit, the bar is low enough that eventually it will annoy somebody enough to send it back if it's crap.
Maybe public institution want to have this type of building because it's easier to undo planning errors of previous administrations, if they can just be packed up. And maybe for architecture vanity, so every leader can have their favorite style of building.
>I guess you're thinking along the right lines though, identify similar products and see what can technology can be moved over.
So any suggestions for cross-overs ?
>I don't know what you can do about that because space is so limited.
this stuff http://www.buyaerogel.com/product/spaceloft-5-mm-cut-to-size/ would work but it's kinda expensive, and i'm not sure how healthy it is.

>>22647
This.
Just because it looks nice diesnt make it bourgeois lifestyleism. dammit.