/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>487016
is he still around?

>>487017
Is there any more info?

From >>486980 it just looks like one literally who quit.

>>487019
And yet for some reason we're supposed to care about the hot takes of some nobody stream whore.

>>487021
>>487019
Yeah tbh this seems pretty insignificant.

>>487024
I'm talking about the nobody stream whore who's head of this "party".

>>487025
Haz seems like a cool guy, surely you're not talking about him.

https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1881710828765753586
Unsurprisingly it's looking like one of the wreckers mayyyyyyy be a pretty untrustworthy character

>>487019
For what it's worth, every time I'm given membership numbers by an ACP member/supporter, the number seems to be lower and lower every time.

>>487047
>Haz seems like a cool guy, surely you're not talking about him.

>>487081
>SoyBooru
Isn't that that fringe alt. right site which that black white supremacist school shooter incel was obsessed with?

>>487084
Yes, sort of. It's the image repository for soyjak.party (now hosted at soyjak.st).
(btw this site's equivalent is https://lefty.pictures)

Haz isn't a leader, in any meaningful sense. He's very quick and intelligent but doesn't conduct himself as a leader should. Would you imagine Stalin or Lenin or Mao or Xi blowing off Executive meetings with "nah I'm going to take a fat shit" or calling female comrades Hoes?
Haz really is someone you want in your PR/media department as a media shock jock Pitbull, for a leader, he comes off extremely unprofessional.
My issue is dealing with Infrareds is that they are all too terminally online and absolutely refuse any guidance or to engage with seriousness, actually building a serious political movement. If Haz was serious, he would drop all the Russia bootlicking shit and at least try get some relevance beyond Kick, but nope, seems content to keep the movement on Kick and fbi.gov.
I mean FFS it's the AMERICAN COMMUNIST party, why in fuck does his online handle have a fucking white Russian flag in it instead of an American flag?

>>487121
>Would you imagine Stalin or Lenin or Mao or Xi blowing off Executive meetings with "nah I'm going to take a fat shit" or calling female comrades Hoes?
Maybe.
I could picture Xi doing that now that you mention, actually.
You should picture Xi doing that. It's a pretty cool image.

>>487048
>News source turns out to to be unreliable
OH NO NO NO!

Watch Al Jazanduyghurkun deny this!

>>487121
>He's very quick and intelligent
Is he though? Everything I've heard from the man has been fucking retarded.

My impression of Haz is that he's good at reaching a certain kind of audience, but that audience isn't one that's particularly serious about politics, nor is it one that can be made to take politics seriously without losing interest in him and his antics. To put it into reference, Haz has ~100k Twitter follows, but his actual party has <350 members, most of which joined early on.

How is this party any different from any other communist splinter faction that has ever existed on the face of the earth? Seriously they are all like: "you are not a real communist, we are the real communists!" then the new either movement dies some months later or becomes completely irrelevant, rince and repeat.

I joined the CPUSA tho

>>487185
Nice!

>>487185
You joined the do-nothing fed-infested party that prefers to endorse Democrats every election rather than run any actual anti-capitalist candidates? Interesting choice, anon.

>>487191
Oh wait I misread that I thought he said ACP (I am a senile old man). I said it was "Nice!" I retract that statement. CPUSA seems not very good, but I do find Chairman Bob to be an incredibly funny concept. I literally laughed just typing his name. Haz Al-Din is also funny, but at least he doesn't endorse the DNC.

>>487192
Honestly, when I joined they actually personally called me and had a conversation with me about why I joined and what motivated my decision to be a part of the cpusa, but, after that they didn't do much follow up. I am not in a major city or anything and so I guess I am not prioritized.

So these parties you guys join don't actually do anything right? Like you just join them? Have they done anything radical since you've been there? To be quite honest it sounds boring as hell.

>>487262
ACP does public service, which is pretty cool.

>>487168
ACP actually had some momentum to begin with. Slick as hell marketing, Hinkle being involved made it reach a far larger audience, membership actually made up of people that look like they could lift more than 15kg, actually won a small political office, rejects all the Lumpen worship and Idpol shit the US Left absolutely can't help but deepthroat.
My issue is Haz and Hinkle aren't trustworthy at all. Both have bizarre ties to Russian oligarchs, Haz is completely unstable. Every time I've intereacted with ACP peeps in a seemingly constructive way they've been insuferable, caring more about Twitter/streamer beefs than actual serious campaigning, policy etc.
Also not a fan of the Dugin shit at all.
I'm still confused why Hinkle is involved at all. Why has he embedded himself with such a fringe group?

>>487267
I find the impression you have of Hinkle clout fascinating.
He always seemed like a nothing-and-nobody who gets invited to major shit where nobody is actually there to see him. Like, he seems astroturfed as fuck to me even if he's not. He's obviously more famous than Haz (after years of Hinkle getting invited to appear places alongside people more famous than he is), but Haz seems like a more compelling character to me. Like, I was always (ALWAYS!) skeptical of Haz and ACP and Maga Communism, it seemed like a completely fake bullshit thing for edgy internet guys to me, but then I saw some of Haz's posts and he's actually a good writer. Posts, let alone tweets, don't normally make me take anybody more seriously but guy is more intelligent and has a better grip on theory than I expected.

>>487273
What I find bizarre is Hinkle COULD have been a right wing grifter and raking in the cash. He's good looking, looks professional, has seemingly lots of nepobaby connections. Perfect rightoid grifter material.
But instead he chose a fringe Communist party and stands with what at the moment is a completely fringe political represntation (Socially Conservative/Economically Far-Left).
If Hinkle was truly just a grifter, he would have instantly become right wing culture warrior, but he didn't and that means something.
>t seemed like a completely fake bullshit thing for edgy internet guys to me, but then I saw some of Haz's posts and he's actually a good writer. Posts, let alone tweets, don't normally make me take anybody more seriously but guy is more intelligent and has a better grip on theory than I expected.
Like I said, Haz is incredibly intelligent, but he's drowning in machismo meathead muslim culture and if you believe the defectors from the ACP, he's incredibly unstable and probably has some sort of mood disorder which you can see often at how quickly he explodes at people. Though probably I think he's likely just juicing and that's effecting his personality. Everyone in gym culture is these days.

>>487440
>if you believe the defectors from the ACP,
I don't lol

My hot take: these guys are doing something right because they're making western "leftists" seethe.

Watching Infrared early on, I thought Haz had a certain spark to him. And I've seen people try again and again to take him down with out-of-context or unsubstantiated claims. But I think his vulgar approach in focusing on trying to reach American workers is actually what's terrifying these idpol leftists, and exactly because of this I think there's potential.

This is completely feels based btw but I've learned to trust my gut.

>>487267
>Slick as hell marketing
They're cringe af like most other larp groups. And they live and die on Haz and Hinkle because it's basically their own cult.
I still don't get this group at all
>>487693
The one positive thing about them is the machismo and aggression from Haz, the western left has none of that. But then he uses it to attack other leftists and attack fake thinktank shit like "woke"

Haz Al-Din:
Upon arriving home last night, I was detained and interrogated by the Department of Homeland Security for 5 hours at the Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport.

Unfortunately for the Zionist jackals calling for our persecution, our country at least retains a veneer of constitutional rights and liberties.

I broke no laws by attending Sayyed Nasrallah's funeral to see with my own eyes what the Zionist media doesn't want you to:

That the people of Lebanon aren't terrorists, and in fact, are themselves victims of U.S. funded Zionist terrorism.

All Americans must come together to oppose the Zionist agenda to overthrow our constitutionally protected rights and liberties.

Americans should not be persecuted for seeking out facts with respect to foreign conflicts that are irrelevant to our interests as a people.

The Zionists extort hard-working Americans to the tune of untold hundreds of billions. We have a right to know where our tax dollars are going and why.

We have a right to form an independent perspective and opinion about the true nature of the conflict we have been involuntarily roped into as Americans.

It should dawn on all Americans that these same Zionists extorting us simultaneously want to suppress our right to free expression and conscience!

Why are they so afraid of Americans seeing the truth with their own eyes? Because it would mean an end to their racket.

Hezbollah aren't terrorists. Jackson and I are American citizens. The only people who tried to terrorize us were Zionist thugs using U.S. manufactured and supplied weapons.

I am an American citizen who saw firsthand what it felt like to be terrorized by weapons funded by my own tax dollars.

If all Americans had this experience, they would be FAR more outraged than I about where our tax dollars are going!

https://x.com/InfraHaz/status/1894465683741626728

The dogpile on the party is absurd, it's as if the current state of affairs is somehow preferable to them

>>488034
Any-and-all dogpiles on socialist parties in the US are generally fucking stupid… although I'm mostly only paying attention to ACP and PSL when I say that, but the fact that I wouldn't even bother thinking of CPUSA or the Socialist Equality Party when I say that is just as much reason not to even bother attacking those parties either. The biggest socialist parties in the US, and ones with momentum and good local projects like ACP, are still tiny. The focus needs to be on doing everything in and out of the political sphere to build worker power, and that project should transcend parties until the actual power has been built. A socialist can't personally justify being a Republican or Democrat, but the socialist parties still aren't big enough yet for a workers' movement to be relegated entirely to existing socialist parties. Until the outreach is done, the only reason for putting actual time into infighting is boojee sabotage.

>>488034
What "party"?

>>488035
Kshama Sawant is doing the right thing with Workers Strike Back. Party building for its own sake is a dead end.

Haz Al-Din:
To understand religious stories of the prophets and other righteous figures of mankind, look no further than modern revolutionary history.

You do not need to believe in the supernatural. Believe in history itself.

Observe the just struggles of revolutionary mankind across history.

Observe the countless martyrs who fought for justice, dignity and truth.

Che Guevara was real. Marx was real. Lenin was real. John Brown was real. Stalin and Mao were real. Malcom X was real. Sayyed Nasrallah was real.

This is all we need to know that the stories of the prophets were real.

If the same struggles, tribulations, and stories are happening TODAY, RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES,

Why would they not have happened in the past?

The memory of the prophets, the foundational wisdom of so many communities and peoples was preserved.

What they really preserve is the revolutionary history that serves as the foundation of their existence.

They preserve the memory of the heroes that fought for ordinary people just like them, even while they're being stepped on and oppressed by elites.

The ancient, sacred religious memory of the people must be linked up with the modern revolutionary history of mankind.

Living faith comes from seeing clearly how what was written about in the holy books can be observed today and right before our eyes.

So many like to preach the word of the holy books.

But they cannot see how today, they occupy the same role as the villains, Pharoahs and Pharisees written in them.

The struggle for existence, justice and dignity TODAY contains the secret behind the message of all prophets.

ACP statement on Mahmoud Khalil

https://x.com/ACP_GA/status/1899861750729646498
On March 11th, the Georgia Chapter of @ACPMain worked with a multitude of different organizations, such as Stop Cop City, Community Movement Builders, and the People's Campaign who are forming the People's Movement Assembly.

We disrupted the Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens' campaign party, exposing him for lying to his voter base after he promised to put our demands on the ballet if the petition reached 15%, which it did. A press conference was also held announcing the launch of the People's Movement Assembly, which will take place on March 22nd, at 12pm in Howell Park, on the West End of Atlanta.

We are very honored to have worked with them, and hope to continue working with them and building strong relations and solidarity!

The American Communist Party is mobilizing for all-out war to organize drayage truckers at the Newark Port.

For decades, truckers have been misclassified as independent contractors, worked long hours for free, and taken for granted.

We will show the nation the power of labor!

>>488094
>>488118
Good job. Seeing anyone actually do something in the name of workers is what I want to see right now. I'm so tired of ineffective discussion.

Jackson Hinkle in Yemen giving a message to the American soldiers aboard the aircraft carrier USS Harry Truman.

>>488340
short version

>>488340
>>488341
Respect, Hinkle has balls

>>488340
>>488341
He obviously didn't. Where did this rally actually take place?

>>488344
Yemen.

>>488341
Really don't like this "people who wage wars against God always fail" bullshit. Reminds of when Genghis Khan went around justifying his murderous rampages by proclaiming that he was the scourge of God sent to punish people for their sins. Hinkle is practically inviting Zionists to justify their brutality here by saying God must obviously want it because they've been so successful.

>>488346
Okay maybe it was Tamerlane actually. It's always a bit hard to nail down that quote.

>>488346
>Really don't like this "people who wage wars against God always fail" bullshit.
The good part of his speech was that he reminded soldiers they can be conscientious objectors.

>Hinkle is practically inviting Zionists to justify their brutality here by saying God must obviously want it
The Zios have been doing this anyway. And the other side has been turning it around by saying that god is testing them, and the Zios are just a test prop. God is a game dev that put a hard boss-fight at the end of the level. Religious word battles are a wash and everybody goes with the interpretation that god is on their side.

>>488346
Zionists already say that, but it's cynical. A difference is that the Yemenis are actually motivated by God, by a sense of greater good. No one needs to invite Zionists to commit what, by all means, are heresies against God and against humankind while claiming to be morally and divinely chosen. They do that already. What the Yemenis appeal to is a sense of God and the divine which moves them to fight for justice and liberation. Millions of people around the world hold faith in that kind of God, why should that faith be unrepresented? If no one held that God and that sense of morality above the cynical invocations of "God" and "morality" of the IDF, what would the point be?

t. once-atheist, relapsing on Universalism with a materialist conception of God as a philosophical concept representing Being, life/death, the transcendence of shared psychological phenomena and sense of being, and the betterment of humans as individuals, and the power of collective will.

Jackson Hinkle speaking to the crowd in Sanaa, Yemen today.

The ACP condemns the recent criminal acts by the US regime against the people of Yemen.

All independent-minded Americans must unite against the warmongering, Zionist agenda!

Statement from Haz Al-Din:
The US HAS NO RIGHT to attack Yemen.

The claim that it is to 'defend international commerce' and 'freedom of the seas' is BULLSHIT - Trump's tariffs will cause SIGNIFICANTLY MORE damage to international commerce than the Houthi's blockade.

In both cases, THE RIGHTS OF NATIONS should ALWAYS take precedent over "international commerce." Especially when it comes to stopping a regional genocide.

If Trump can tariff the world to revive US industry, Yemen should also have the right to tariff the world to stop a genocide.

>>488590
Technically speaking

Yemen is upholding international law by intervening in a genocide, by which ever means it has.
Israel is the one that is causing the thread to international commerce, because it's actions in Gaza compel other nations to intervene.
The US is just being a rogue nation that is attacking Yemen without a justifiable cause.

There is no tension between the right of nations and international commerce in this instance.

Why is Haz conceding ideological ground to Zionism. The only reason you would consider Yemen as attacking international commerce is if you concede that they do not have a case for intervention on behalf of Gaza. Gaza is a textbook example of a genocide, there even are Israeli state officials going on public record confirming in no uncertain terms that they intend to murder or ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. So there is little room for interpretation.

The tension here is between Yemen and Israel, not Yemen and international commerce. Especially because Yemen halted their activities in the red sea during the cease-fire combat-reduction.