/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>484222
Lmao there is nothing in the ACP program or that Haz has said which suggests “block of all classes” anything. It’s explicitly a proletarian party. Also the family is something Communists support in a real sense - have you ever read Engles’ Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State? We are not for the dissolution of all family bonds, we are against the bourgeois family and for the real and human family.

I don’t understand why libtards like you denounce every actual communist as a strasserist. Haz has nothing in common with Strasser.

During the Cold War you would have denounced the USSR as fascist for not being a libtard free love LGBT paradise.

>>485897
>I don’t understand why libtards like you denounce every actual communist as a strasserist.
Because the vast majority of the Western left are shitlibs who hate everything about Western society and culture and want to see it burn to the ground, and anybody that goes against their inane antisocial attitudes and actually supports civic and wider social bonds, is a "Fascist".
Early Whats Left Podcast with Ben Studebaker was such a good deep dive and deconstruction of the Western Left, it's views and movements and their eventual conclusion was the Western left became the "radical vanguard" of Neoliberalism. The job of the left is to basically put moral arguments, and a radical veneer on ultra-Libtard, Neolib positions, then all Neolibs have to do is "moderate" that a bit, and suddenly, Neolibs are pushing progressive ideology.
Look at how most Leftists are completely Open Borders and are literally arguing lower immigration will "raise prices", with the implication it will also "raise wages". It shows how shitlib the left has become.
Also in general there is tonnes of misinformation out there by Troon brained Shitlib "leftists" about the ACP, Patriotic Socialism, MAGA Communism etc because one of the major goals of the Western shitlib left, is to literally destroy Western society, culturally eliminate Anglo/European culture and subsume it into the Global South, out of pure shitlib cultural cringe of yeah, often crappy normie white attitudes and idiocy like shitty suburbia life.
What they miss is 90% of people from the Global South are 100x more conservative and reactionary than even most Trump supporters.

>>485900
Also the idea the ACP is class collaborationist is delusional, they are radically pro-Proletarian to even a kind of crazy level where they are barred from working with even porkie charties and networks.
https://x.com/ACP_Washington/status/1859714559755550770

>>485900
Agreed, I should listen to that Podcast.

The western left is overwhelmingly concerned with virtue signaling and taking the most radical and unpopular positions possible. They enjoy being unlikable to normal people because to be likable is to be normal, and therefore not sufficiently radical. This is why they hate the ACP doing community service and actually serving the people.

>>484032
Heidegger's black notebooks were published like a decade ago. We know—more than ever before, that the man's thought was inextricably linked with a commitment to Nazi ideology. His explosive popularity in bourgeois academia (especially in western art history circles) is only just now being reassessed.

New statement about current events from Haz:
Here's the truth: Iran is infiltrated by traitors, the same ones who killed Raisi.

Iran's reformists are part of the wealthy oligarchical class that controls Iran's economy, and has all their money tied up by sanctions.

They want that money at all costs. They sold out everyone for it.

These guys have been agents of the CIA in Iran since 1979.

The Islamic Republic ideology is dead. It dismissed Marxist "materialism" and was completely blind to the reality of class forces.

Class dynamics are the sole reason that:

- Traitors sold out the resistance, to protect their wealth

- Bashar was so hugely unpopular, because his father's entire strategy was uniting the bourgeois and other elites, halting Jadid's popular land reforms, thus failing to acquire a reliable basis in the majority.

- The Axis has been so hesitant to engage in all out war - their bourgeois had too much to lose.

- Yemeni's showed so much courage, they had basically nothing to lose.

Everyone should take note and learn the lessons of what happened. The proletarian dictatorship is the only reliable form of state power for confronting and resisting imperialism.

The 'resistance' led by the 'Islamic Republic,' has proven to be weak, pathetic and ineffectual. Compare them to China during the Korean War, who risked the nuclear annihilation of the planet.

Communists ALONE have successfully confronted and challenged imperialism historically in the long run.

Marxism is not dead. There is no resistance without Marxism.

The forces of regional revolution and resistance will have to be RE-BUILT, from scratch.

Now let's put aside the nonsense and religious sectarian jibber.

Time to read Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao.

https://x.com/InfraHaz/status/1865813322190262515

Statement from Noah Khrachvik:

At times like these, a lot of people give up. I want to talk about why we shouldn't. Why we can't.

The progressive forces of the world suffered a very bad defeat as terrorists began their domination of Syria over the weekend. They're already kidnapping women, and the oppression of minority groups will begin soon. Mean while, people all over the US cheer. The "dictator" has fallen. Just as they cheered when the "dictator" Gaddafi fell in Libya, and terrorists ran freely over what was at one time the most prosperous country on the entire African continent. Now, Libya is a broken ruin. Literal human slavery returned, and the "brave" American ruling class, which had taken down this "dictator" ignores the suffering of the Libyan people. Mission accomplished, right?

Brothers and sisters, I'm here to tell you that this will only continue happening. Our ruling class is getting weaker with every accumulated debt that can't be paid and every country that leaves the dollar zone. Its empty economy, based on debts, rents, speculation, derivatives, and scams, cannot but lash out at the rest of the world as it reaches a moment of impossibility and impoverishes the people of America. It won't stop at Syria. It won't stop at these terrorists. It will use every terrorist it can, and it will continue spreading murder and terror - because it is under the impression that there is a way to save this dying system.

And many believe this is a bad omen, a sign of more victories for international finance capital to come. It is not. As Lenin teaches us, there is only ONE way to overcome this detritus, this chaos, and this bloodshed. And that is to find, within the existing society we have, that one social force capable of defeating this ruling class - to find, "in the very society which surrounds us, the forces which can—and, owing to their social position, must—constitute the power capable of sweeping away the old and creating the new, and to enlighten and organize those forces for the struggle."

The time for that action is now. Liberals, national nihilists, and ultra-lefts, I am talking to you now: if you are genuinely concerned about the people of other countries as you say you are, I urge you to join us in this fight, here in this country. Because their enemy is our enemy. Their cause is our cause. The people who are impoverishing our families are murdering theirs. You care about the people of Syria? Those responsible for their suffering are right here in America, sitting in comfortable offices on Wall Street and K Street. And they won't be defeated by nice sounding words or anarchistic propaganda of the deed. They will only be defeated by doing precisely what Lenin teaches us in the quote above.

We've found that force. The next step is to organize it.

https://x.com/khrachvik/status/1866062518671622406

>>484015
>Haz isn't a communist
>>484011
>he's reactionary
Is this the ultra left suffering from infantile disorder that I keep hearing about?

New statement from Haz:

At the behest of the global creditor class, Silicon Valley is trying to create a new feudal caste system in America.

The real fight was never between natives and foreigners. The fight is between neofeudal caste slavery and free, sovereign peoples.

The elites want to import immigrants to build a caste system. The hideous and bestial ideology of racialism is a part of this.

According to this ideology, high-skilled jobs select for "high autism score." In reality it's a pitiful excuse for not investing capital in your own people.

That would require powerful state intervention and investment in the people, which oligarchs will never accept. They prefer Javier Milei.

Under FDR, an entire generation of farmers, and common folk like Henry Wallace, who today would be considered "poor human capital" were given a shot at social mobility.

They proved to be among America's most exceptional and talented leaders.

Working people do not hate foreigners and despise the bestial anti-human ideology of tech elites.

They hate being abandoned and left to rot as capitalists feign for foreign "elite human capital" (as well as desperate slaves) because they don't want our state to invest in its own people.

They want people within their own countries to be able to freely build up their own nations.

That is what will create true friendship and respect between nations.

Yet the capitalist elites want to simultaneously destroy the sovereignty of other nations, while importing a class of slaves, managers and loyal brahmins to consolidate their own power domestically.

This is the true, ugly face of the so-called "American empire" taking shape. It will leave behind the American people in pursuit of the destruction of Russia and China at all costs.

The whole point of MAGA Communism was that unless the interests of the working class are raised to supremacy within MAGA, the interests of the ruling elite will prevail - destroying it.

Now the interests of Silicon Valley elites have overtaken the blue collar workers who tipped the scale for Trump in 2016.

Now we enter a new era of American politics, the post-MAGA era.

Now is the time for the reconstruction of a strong, powerful, and real LEFT-WING to oppose the neo-feudal agenda of Davos, to defend the American revolutionary tradition.

https://x.com/InfraHaz/status/1872682486766997891

This guy has the right take.

New statement from Haz Al-Din:

Why Communism? It's very simple.

When things start to get BRUTAL, and we witness a breakdown of society, humanity must be reduced to the discipline of bare, collective existence.

Is this pleasant? No. The brutal circumstances that Communism emerges in response to are never pleasant and luxurious affairs.

But what it is - is survival. The alternative is the law of the jungle and the destruction of humanity itself.

One of the things we're taught is that in a state of survival, it's every individual man for himself. Funny. In a real state of survival, lone individuals get picked off like flies.

The only winners are the most disciplined and united collectives. And Communism is the only thing that can unite people at a national scale in a state of total collapse.

I'm sure they taught you in the CIA curated history books how brutal Communism was.

But they didn't teach you how brutal China's warlord era and Japanese invasion were.

They didn't teach you how brutal life was in Russia in the aftermath of WW1, where princes and bankers were sending peasants to the slaughter like fodder - or how after the Bolsheviks decided to cancel all the foreign debt, they were blockaded, and invaded by all major foreign powers who propped up vicious thugs to get their loans back, thanks to which the country had to endure famine and brutal Civil War.

They didn't teach you about the brutality of the US bombing of Korea or even Cambodia.

Communism is often brutal because it is meeting brutal and extreme challenges. Which we in America have only ever gotten a small taste of during the Great Depression.

Know what else is brutal?

Society devolving into madness, racial warfare, barbarism, warlords, slavery, tribalism, and the reign of killer clown gangs.

That's what we're headed toward in America. Easy times, maintained for so long by keeping the rest of the world under heel, are coming to an end.

Americans are only going to survive as one people if they band together through Communism.

Would we all prefer to live in heavenly bliss? Of course we would. But this is about REALITY.

The choice is going to be Communism or a permanent dark ages.

Communism isn't some bullshit cooked up by purple hair idiot college kids. Those insane freaks have never read a word of Marx or Lenin in their lives.

Communism is born of a survival reflex amidst extremely brutal circumstances.

These circumstances are coming to America and LA is only the beginning.

China went through the brutal stages we all know about. Yet now it has immune resistance from the madness we are headed toward as a country.

That's why it's now prospering and we're headed into collapse.

If you're against Communism, you must have so much faith that our elites aren't going to drive the country into a ditch.

We'll be waiting for you when you wake up to the real world.

https://x.com/InfraHaz/status/1878140110136602833

>>486826
That's nice and all, but is a guy who had a meltdown because his fastfood wasn't delivered properly prepared for such a situation?

>>486927
Not going to lie, as someone who deals with fucking entitled as fuck, retarded, aggressive uber eats drivers alot. He's just spitting facts lol.
t. worked as a driver.

>>486927
Service was rude in the Soviet Union:
https://jacobin.com/2013/02/soviet-waiters-emotional-labor-customer-service

Haz is just acting authentically, the same way he would react if he lived in AES. He is acting authentically, as opposed to the forced happiness/fake smile that is enforced on employees in capitalism/neo-feudalism.

Also it's agitprop.

>>486927
Wow you're right, fuck his writing, let's focus on this one meaningless clip that definitely exposes him as being a piece of shit. I'm quitting communism right now.

>>486930
cry harder, butthurt snowflake, lol

The ACP is fucking dead lol

>>486944
>>486975
???

Some of the notable ACP members are leaving. Comments?

This guy compares ACP to fucking Black Hammer, lmao

>>486980
Damn, Danny is one of the good ones. I was hoping the MWM boys will straighten up Haz, but this isn't a good look.

Ginjeet would've prevented this

Bahaha it feels great to see a leftypol-inspired shitparty go down, but it feels sad that anyone was sucked into this and there remains nothing of substance. If there is an opposition party, it is conducted in secret, and must be. The public domain is dead.

>>487016
is he still around?

>>487017
Is there any more info?

From >>486980 it just looks like one literally who quit.

>>487019
And yet for some reason we're supposed to care about the hot takes of some nobody stream whore.

>>487021
>>487019
Yeah tbh this seems pretty insignificant.

>>487024
I'm talking about the nobody stream whore who's head of this "party".

>>487025
Haz seems like a cool guy, surely you're not talking about him.

https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1881710828765753586
Unsurprisingly it's looking like one of the wreckers mayyyyyyy be a pretty untrustworthy character

>>487019
For what it's worth, every time I'm given membership numbers by an ACP member/supporter, the number seems to be lower and lower every time.

>>487047
>Haz seems like a cool guy, surely you're not talking about him.

>>487081
>SoyBooru
Isn't that that fringe alt. right site which that black white supremacist school shooter incel was obsessed with?

>>487084
Yes, sort of. It's the image repository for soyjak.party (now hosted at soyjak.st).
(btw this site's equivalent is https://lefty.pictures)

Haz isn't a leader, in any meaningful sense. He's very quick and intelligent but doesn't conduct himself as a leader should. Would you imagine Stalin or Lenin or Mao or Xi blowing off Executive meetings with "nah I'm going to take a fat shit" or calling female comrades Hoes?
Haz really is someone you want in your PR/media department as a media shock jock Pitbull, for a leader, he comes off extremely unprofessional.
My issue is dealing with Infrareds is that they are all too terminally online and absolutely refuse any guidance or to engage with seriousness, actually building a serious political movement. If Haz was serious, he would drop all the Russia bootlicking shit and at least try get some relevance beyond Kick, but nope, seems content to keep the movement on Kick and fbi.gov.
I mean FFS it's the AMERICAN COMMUNIST party, why in fuck does his online handle have a fucking white Russian flag in it instead of an American flag?

>>487121
>Would you imagine Stalin or Lenin or Mao or Xi blowing off Executive meetings with "nah I'm going to take a fat shit" or calling female comrades Hoes?
Maybe.
I could picture Xi doing that now that you mention, actually.
You should picture Xi doing that. It's a pretty cool image.

>>487048
>News source turns out to to be unreliable
OH NO NO NO!

Watch Al Jazanduyghurkun deny this!

>>487121
>He's very quick and intelligent
Is he though? Everything I've heard from the man has been fucking retarded.

My impression of Haz is that he's good at reaching a certain kind of audience, but that audience isn't one that's particularly serious about politics, nor is it one that can be made to take politics seriously without losing interest in him and his antics. To put it into reference, Haz has ~100k Twitter follows, but his actual party has <350 members, most of which joined early on.

How is this party any different from any other communist splinter faction that has ever existed on the face of the earth? Seriously they are all like: "you are not a real communist, we are the real communists!" then the new either movement dies some months later or becomes completely irrelevant, rince and repeat.

I joined the CPUSA tho

>>487185
Nice!

>>487185
You joined the do-nothing fed-infested party that prefers to endorse Democrats every election rather than run any actual anti-capitalist candidates? Interesting choice, anon.

>>487191
Oh wait I misread that I thought he said ACP (I am a senile old man). I said it was "Nice!" I retract that statement. CPUSA seems not very good, but I do find Chairman Bob to be an incredibly funny concept. I literally laughed just typing his name. Haz Al-Din is also funny, but at least he doesn't endorse the DNC.

>>487192
Honestly, when I joined they actually personally called me and had a conversation with me about why I joined and what motivated my decision to be a part of the cpusa, but, after that they didn't do much follow up. I am not in a major city or anything and so I guess I am not prioritized.

So these parties you guys join don't actually do anything right? Like you just join them? Have they done anything radical since you've been there? To be quite honest it sounds boring as hell.

>>487262
ACP does public service, which is pretty cool.

>>487168
ACP actually had some momentum to begin with. Slick as hell marketing, Hinkle being involved made it reach a far larger audience, membership actually made up of people that look like they could lift more than 15kg, actually won a small political office, rejects all the Lumpen worship and Idpol shit the US Left absolutely can't help but deepthroat.
My issue is Haz and Hinkle aren't trustworthy at all. Both have bizarre ties to Russian oligarchs, Haz is completely unstable. Every time I've intereacted with ACP peeps in a seemingly constructive way they've been insuferable, caring more about Twitter/streamer beefs than actual serious campaigning, policy etc.
Also not a fan of the Dugin shit at all.
I'm still confused why Hinkle is involved at all. Why has he embedded himself with such a fringe group?

>>487267
I find the impression you have of Hinkle clout fascinating.
He always seemed like a nothing-and-nobody who gets invited to major shit where nobody is actually there to see him. Like, he seems astroturfed as fuck to me even if he's not. He's obviously more famous than Haz (after years of Hinkle getting invited to appear places alongside people more famous than he is), but Haz seems like a more compelling character to me. Like, I was always (ALWAYS!) skeptical of Haz and ACP and Maga Communism, it seemed like a completely fake bullshit thing for edgy internet guys to me, but then I saw some of Haz's posts and he's actually a good writer. Posts, let alone tweets, don't normally make me take anybody more seriously but guy is more intelligent and has a better grip on theory than I expected.

>>487273
What I find bizarre is Hinkle COULD have been a right wing grifter and raking in the cash. He's good looking, looks professional, has seemingly lots of nepobaby connections. Perfect rightoid grifter material.
But instead he chose a fringe Communist party and stands with what at the moment is a completely fringe political represntation (Socially Conservative/Economically Far-Left).
If Hinkle was truly just a grifter, he would have instantly become right wing culture warrior, but he didn't and that means something.
>t seemed like a completely fake bullshit thing for edgy internet guys to me, but then I saw some of Haz's posts and he's actually a good writer. Posts, let alone tweets, don't normally make me take anybody more seriously but guy is more intelligent and has a better grip on theory than I expected.
Like I said, Haz is incredibly intelligent, but he's drowning in machismo meathead muslim culture and if you believe the defectors from the ACP, he's incredibly unstable and probably has some sort of mood disorder which you can see often at how quickly he explodes at people. Though probably I think he's likely just juicing and that's effecting his personality. Everyone in gym culture is these days.

>>487440
>if you believe the defectors from the ACP,
I don't lol

My hot take: these guys are doing something right because they're making western "leftists" seethe.

Watching Infrared early on, I thought Haz had a certain spark to him. And I've seen people try again and again to take him down with out-of-context or unsubstantiated claims. But I think his vulgar approach in focusing on trying to reach American workers is actually what's terrifying these idpol leftists, and exactly because of this I think there's potential.

This is completely feels based btw but I've learned to trust my gut.