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 No.9326

Why hasn't chans/imageboards UX/UI advanced beyond the early to mid 2000s?

Would anons even want a "modern" style HTML5/CSS UI with flex/grid/etc. ?

I feel like having a non dated UI would attract alot more normies to imageboards
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 No.9328

Please no, leftypol actually feels more modern in terms of functionality but modern UX/UI is fucking awful
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 No.9329

>>9328
We need the react feature for posts.
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 No.9330

>>9329
Just add an instant soyjak button
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 No.9332

>>9330
based
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 No.9333

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The web is dead/dying. It's being coopt'd by massive corporations. Boards like this are all that's left of what once was the wild west of the internet.

I'd start getting accustomed to protocols like gemini, tbh.
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 No.9338

>>9333
Gemini is blazingly fast
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 No.9339

>Why hasn't chans/imageboards UX/UI advanced beyond the early to mid 2000s?
But they have? Unless you're one of those retards who need lots of rounder borders and useless javascript animation effects to like a website.
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 No.9386

>>9338
>>9333
I dont suppose there's any way to host gemini over onion?
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 No.9388

>>9333
Do gemini browsers support images?
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 No.9389

>>9386
does the onion router even care about protocols ? It might take some configuring but in principle any type of package based information transfer should be compatible.
>>9388
>Do gemini browsers support images?
if you want inline images displayed along side the text, use the Lagrange browser.
But try out amfora as well, it's very nice, it opens images in an external application
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 No.9392

>>9389
>does the onion router even care about protocols ?
Only at layer 3. Tor only supports TCP.
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 No.9424

>>9326
How exactly do you envision it to be more "modern"? It's a text board with pictures. What else does it need? You can look at russian 2ch.hk to see a bit more modern take (which I think is pure cringe). There was also that one project Moot started that was supposed to be "like if 4chan was created today" back in 2010 and it failed. There's no need for major innovation here.
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 No.9425

>>9424
Reactions 😤
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 No.9426

>>9326
UX/UI design has been in freefall since the introduction of smartphones and tablets. imageboards are one of the few sets of website types still marginally tolerable to use.

whenever someone says the word "responsive" i want to break his fingers.
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 No.9669

>>9424
more modern like not looking so web 1.0. Yes autistic anons here love it because they read something Stallman wrote about javascript once but "normies" see it and think "unironic retro".
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 No.9670

>>9669
I honestly have no idea how would that look like. I mean it's just text with some background boxes. How do you make it more modern? Not to mention 99% of modern UX for websites fucking blows. New Reddit? It's fucking awful. And also, I think imageboards look fine as they are, even for normies. I think the idea of anonymity is what's keeping normies from it. They don't want to go to a site to be called a faggot or something. Or having to find good posts themselves. So the only way to modernize imageboards is to add the epic upoat system and the ability to make custom boards to which you could subscribe and see the most upboated posts. But that's just another reddit so no point in doing that.
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 No.9671

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>>9670
>How do you make it more modern?
rounded borders, css-styled buttons instead of plain text links for more things, a modern front, mobile-responsiveness for phonefags, for one. Something that has the polish of reddit/twitter but still the function of a chan. There's no rule that says your website has to look like it was made in 2005 to be "le authentic oldfag channer", its like being repulsive to normie zoomers is a badge of honor to them or something.

I'm not talking about rewriting a chan to use heavy-javascript like angular or something, just modern css/UX with a minimalist, but modern approach
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 No.9672

>>9671
Twitter looks like ass and the corners are already rounded.
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 No.9676

>>9670
You should see screenshots of 4chan in the mid 2000s.

Imageboards have kept up with the internet in an honestly somewhat elegant way.
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 No.9681

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There's a difference between progressing and conforming. Most will keep the traditional elements but many are further diverged. I know one caused a stir of discontent in 2014 when they moved to a center-aligned view.
4kev is noteworthy too. https://www.4kev.org/boards/design/

>>9676
.net vs today
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 No.9682

>>9329
No the fuck we do not. People hunting for (You)s is bad enough as it is.
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 No.9683

>>9682
It would diminish attention whoring. Instead of bothering to reply to bait, people would only push the react with the 🎣 and there would be less enjoyment in baiting.
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 No.9684

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Modernity is literally a normalfag meme.
Remember that Jakob’s law was coined in 2000 because zoomer phonetards were even born.
You can copy the latest fads right off a cliff, and normalfags will praise you for the "modern look" all the way down, but these always come at heavy cost to functionality.
Twitter hijacks scroll and shudders like it's having a fit. Whitespace has reached parody levels, with literally one headline fitting the entire screen.
Reddit can't be assed to show you more than ONE comment because everyone has ADHD and need to bingescroll more shitty labeling memes. Their metrics probably say that this is good.
How far along must the spongiform encephalopathy be for people to actually like this?

Moot really thought he was on the train to porkyville with canvASS. His mistake: Didn't go cancerous enough.
Imagine all the cancer in the world, and that's what WILL be next.
It will be some unholy mashup of mini streams which automatically scroll like slotmachine reels, which you can't stop, interspersed with ads, low quality camwhores, and gamified reacting pepe and wojaks spam pouring down the screen. Stars bursting like a mobile game announcing every time someone tips reddit gold.

Maybe this already exists.
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 No.9685

>>9669
Imageboards are Web 2.0. And this board uses JS.

>>9671
>Something that has the polish of reddit/twitter
But they are a pain in the ass to use, and part of it is directly because of their "slick" design.

Take the example of a flat design trend. It looks good and clean simply because it removes visual elements, but everything is flattened into the same plane of relevance, it removes a crucial part of visual information that is needed for efficient navigation.

Then combine that with heavy use of JS that restricts how much information is present at once, instead one web page is turned into a slideshow of multiple pages, and you've achieved the utter shit that is "modern web design".
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 No.9686

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>>9684
>It will be some unholy mashup of mini streams which automatically scroll like slotmachine reels, which you can't stop, interspersed with ads, low quality camwhores, and gamified reacting pepe and wojaks spam pouring down the screen. Stars bursting like a mobile game announcing every time someone tips reddit gold. Maybe this already exists.
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 No.9687

>>9685
>mfw gnomies praised their shitty adwaita theme because it's not flat and avoids modern flat trends but now are forced to praise the new adwaita theme that is 100% flat
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 No.9693

>>9671
>Something that has the polish of reddit/twitter but still the function of a chan.
New reddit or old reddit? I cannot fathom how anybody can use the new reddit. Every time I click on a link to reddit I have to change it to old.
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 No.9700

>>9693
old reddit then, but thats not the point. You have to admit the aesthetic of vichan is pretty dated
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 No.9708

>>9426
>whenever someone says the word "responsive" i want to break his fingers.
why, isn't it logical to want a website to render well both on a desktop and on a phone or tablet or whatever
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 No.9725

>>9708
that anon probably wants the site to be hell on mobile posters to discourage phonefagging. which is dumb because lots of third worlders only access the internet via phone and dont even have a pc
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 No.9726

>>9708
>>9725
Anon's right. There's having a separate mobile version of the site (like Wikipedia), then there's "responsive" design that fucks the site up for desktop users.
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 No.9727

>>9693
you already know they're gonna remove old reddit in the next few years because of "security reasons" or some dumb shit
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 No.9728

>>9727
use alternative frontend like teddit.net, it's depozzed as well
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 No.9845

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I've started looking around other imageboards and there's some interesting looking ones out there.
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 No.9846

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>>9845
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 No.9847

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check out this. Now this is what I call a modern take on a chan!
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 No.9852

>>9727
What is the benefit of old reddit over new?
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 No.9855

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>modern UX/UI
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 No.9856

>>9855
>I'm a dev
Ok, mucho gusto.
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 No.9857

>>9845
soul
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 No.9858

>>9684
>It will be some unholy mashup of mini streams which automatically scroll like slotmachine reels, which you can't stop, interspersed with ads, low quality camwhores, and gamified reacting pepe and wojaks spam pouring down the screen. Stars bursting like a mobile game announcing every time someone tips reddit gold.
Nice.
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 No.9860

>>9845
Check out 4taba too, it's run by the same person and it has the greatest imageboard innovation in the century: side threads.
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 No.9862

>>9326
A good website is not only accessible on a phone, but looks good on a phone, has the same level of features, plus features that are platform specific, and is performant. 4chan is accessible on a phone but doesn't look very good and lacks features that are related to the platform. Mobile platform approach would make it easier for mobile users to utilize the site, hence the desire for a separate app.
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 No.9865

>modern design

holy bloat
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 No.9867

>>9852
For me, it's being able to read all the comments without an extra click, or with javascript disabled.
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 No.9870

Modern UI, such as forcing a new image format on some users who can't read it? Bravo, leftypol.org.
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 No.9875

>>9870
thats unrelated to this thread, but im surprised they went with it considering how badly anons react to anything google (muh glow in the darks)
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 No.9876

>>9862
It is physically impossible to make a forum that works as well on a phone as it does on a computer. Even if you take the twitter route of gimping the wordcount so that the fact phones are shit to type on is mitigated, you're still left with the fact a PC user can have access to a hundred tabs at 10 seconds notice while a phone user will take much longer to flip between 5.

>>9875
Far worse than glowing is the lying. If you're going to serve a webp, call it a webp. There is no limit to the suffering I wish upon whoever decided to make it a practical standard for websites to outright lie about the files they're serving. When I save a .jpeg only to discover it's actually a .heic I understand immediately and instinctively the motivation felt by every serial killer and psychopath in history.
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 No.9877

>"modern" style HTML5/CSS UI with flex/grid/etc. ?
Literally innovation for innovation's sake. Neoliberal koolaid.
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 No.9880

>>9876
>It is physically impossible to make a forum that works as well on a phone as it does on a computer.
Yes absolutely. And not just forums. There was a brief window around 2010-2012 where all companies were trying to unify their desktop and mobile experience.
And they all failed because it really is *physically* impossible, despite being practically a holy grail from a business perspective.

Even if you develop two separate, really nice front-ends for a forum, it still ends up culturally incompatible. If posts are longer than 240 characters then phone users can't/won't read them.
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 No.9881

>>9876
>>9880
Are you serious? I've been browsing forums (and this includes imageboards and textboards, obviously) since ever. I even used to do it on a dumbphone over a decade ago.
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 No.9882

>>9881
on phones since ever*

Reminder 2ch and Futaba and even some western textboards (i.e. 4-ch and BaI) offered alternate low bandwidth subpages meant for phone browsing were posts were left untouched and only a bit of clutter was removed (like shortening post dates and having minimal CSS or none at all).
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 No.9887

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>>9881
Of course sites work well on phones.
The aftermath of the failed merger attempts was obviously that phones won entirely. They were after all the growing market.
"Mobile first" became the hegemonic "modern" design philosophy, and everything outside of developer tools and technical productivity tools become dumbed down and phoney.
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 No.9889

>>9887
yeah which is why for example modern twitter is based on the mobile design and the desktop version was modified to look more phonelike
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 No.9916

>>9860
>side threads
explain, please
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 No.9961

>>9326
google "infinity-next"
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 No.9963

>>9961
i thought it never got finished?
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 No.9966

Disable posting for phonefags.
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 No.9989

>>9326
fatchan is pretty modern looking
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 No.9990

>>9966
this
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 No.10006

>>9989
it looks like a normal chan to me?
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 No.10008

>>9966
I think that's called post-modern web design.
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 No.10009

>>10008
moar liek post-mortem am I rite??
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 No.10062

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>>9916
It's these marginal notes you can put on posts. They are always sage and hidden by default so it is a good way to call people faggots without derailing the thread.
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 No.10063

>>10062
how is that different from the branching reply model of reddit for example? only it only goes 1 deep?
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 No.10068

>>10063
yea

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