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 No.8026

Spin off from >>7090
Right now we're under threat of big tech companies finding loopholes on the GPL to take out software and make it closed source without giving anything back and because the FSF is staffed by corporate stooges once Stallman dies we're at their mercy.
We also need to promote the use of copyleft licenses and dissuade people from using permissive licenses.

What is there left to do?
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 No.8027

Isn't there two variations of GPL3? One that updates and one that doesn't? Just change over to the one that doesn't update.
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 No.8028

we need a new license, since the GPL is (as good as it is) still too much of a liberal and idealistic license. consider a license which is based on GPLv3, but which also provides that the software cannot under any circumstances be turned into a commodity or a capital, and must (whether in original or modified form) be not only "free as in freedom" but also "free as in free association of producers" and also "free as in free healthcare". in other words, a license which communizes software, making it the common right of the workers of the world.
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 No.8030

I don't like the framing around "giving back" as it misleads from the issue Free Software is trying to solve. In case you are not aware, nowhere in the GPL or the four freedoms is "giving back" present. If you receive a software under the terms of the GPL and modify it, you don't have to make your modifications available to the person who gave you the original software. You do have to make it available to those who use your version of the software. If you send your modified program to a friend, you have send the modified code to them. But you don't have to publish it. Your friend could publish it, and you can't stop them from doing it, but they don't have to do it either.

I have the suspicion that most posters here wouldn't agree with the Free Software philosophy if they actually read what Stallman wrote.
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 No.8032

Start with Affero provisions. Service in place of software is a very serious threat to user freedom and with Google's monopolistic take over of web development they're trying to turn all computing into web.
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 No.8033

Parity License seems good, dunno if it'll work legally in burgerland though
https://paritylicense.com/
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 No.8035

GPL was defeated when cloud computing and SaaSS became practical for most things. Anything less than AGPLv3 or EUPL is the same as the MIT license. But those aren't perfect either. Something like Parity License is better, but I don't think it would hold up legally. So our best would be to have AGPLv4 drafted while Stallman is still there to oversee it.
If you're a burger, it's imperative that you support the Right to Repair movement both nationally and in your state. The northeast coast has the strongest presence for it.
Open hardware development should be prioritized. This is an important piece to stopping the "proprietary streaming brick" dystopia that is being built.
It is also important to make federated versions of everything you can (under an AGPL-like license of course) as well as mobile apps for using them.

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