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 No.12551

Many claim that it's not possible to make economically viable video platforms, and that You-tube can only exist because google subsidizes it. If your platform is designed around the concept of renting servers that host and serve all the video-files that people download, that could be true.

However there might be another way

If you make the video platform a peer to peer protocol where the servers just have to host reference video-files, which then percolate through a peer to peer distribution model, video platforms should become economically viable. The bandwidth-cost of transmitting a video once will lead to many views not just one. Another cost factor is video-transcoding. That too could be offloaded to peers. If a uploaded video gets watched on average a few hundred times, peers only have to contribute a fraction of a percent of the necessary compute resources per video. Even for battery-powered devices this will be a negligible drain.

The "Muh-businesmodel"
Sell video-makers a modified NAS pre-setup to host the video reference files.
Sell users a low-power compute-device they plug into their internet connection which helps with peer-availability and grants them network-priority for the best viewing experience.

additional "Mc-revenue streams"
Many online videos shill products, add a online market-place where people can directly buy their crap and you can take a small cut. Same scheme with sponsored content.
Also add a crowd fund mechanism where people can crowdfund episodes for open creative commons entertainment franchises. And be strategical about it, you need to have one popular pioneer project that draws a crowd, to get this started.
If you're not too greedy and only take a 0.5 to 3% cut, your stuff will take off.

Be forward thinking, and make design provisions to add AI-generated video at a later time, when AI-accelerator-chips become cheap commodities that can be put into low-cost compute devices.

You should try to add a wireless mesh-network functionality for cities, that way if you have lots of users with either the creator-NAS or the peer-compute-device in geographic proximity you can lower the burden on the local network infrastructure, and avoid pissing off ISPs with traffic spikes.
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 No.12575

>If you make the video platform a peer to peer protocol
Install qBittorrent, install search engines or use the default ones, download video, tick "download pieces in order" checkbox (or whatever it is called) -> enjoy your p2p streamed video.

Didn't test this yet:
https://gnutella3.sourceforge.net/

>wireless mesh-network

Yes, but as a separate application that creates a p2p VPN. Unix philosophy, separate tools for separate tasks.
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 No.12592

>>12551
A protocol called data shards does this. I've never tried it but I hear it works well.
A more popular solution if IPFS, I'd someone could make a YouTube like front end it might actually work.
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 No.12593

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So Peertube?
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 No.12594

>>12575
>>12592
>>12593
Those suggestions all appear to more or less solve the technical side, but not the commercial part.
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 No.12631

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just rape a bitch
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 No.12632

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>>12631
>copulate with a female dog
bestiality ?
Ew
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 No.12635

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>>12632
bestiality is based
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 No.12694

>>12551
my parents in south america essentially use whatsapp as their main social media. boomers send each other videos on group chats all the time. i think it's unironically a p2p video platform, with whatsapp servers helping host for a little while and then the files are on their own.

for your scheme though, i would add virtual servers or SaaS where creators can upload their videos to the network without having to own the hardware. yeah, "you will own nothing and be happy," but most creatives are really happy to let the experts manage the technical part of their business

however, though we all would consider a lack of censorship as an advantage, you risk having the platform filled with bestiality and child porn and such illegal and disgusting content. moderation is the real test of fire with social media. all the apps people used today are built on the backs of traumatized moderators who have to go through mountains of gore everyday to make the internet usable
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 No.12695

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Film is vastly overkill for most things people make videos about these days. Something like how flash games operated (ship static vector assets with transformation instructions and audio) would be a better fit approach.

If videographers start making powerpoints with a Vtuber rig and mocap data overlayed on top made in godot exported as an html5 "game," youtube is gonna lose half it's traffic.
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 No.12696

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>>12694
>whatsapp
>it's unironically a p2p video platform
interesting, i did not know that.

>for your scheme though, i would add virtual servers or SaaS where creators can upload their videos to the network without having to own the hardware. yeah, "you will own nothing and be happy," but most creatives are really happy to let the experts manage the technical part of their business

That would replicate the bottle-neck that makes current video-platfroms so uneconomical. Storage absolutely has to migrate to the edges of the network to fix that. I don't think it's too much to ask for a content creator to set up what is basically a fancy NAS. Many already do that to backup their video source files. Besides there's another "revenue streamerino" : tech support. I specifically want dispersed ownership of hardware, not merely for ideological reasons of prioritizing personal property. All those data-centers look really fragile and precarious. Destroying a data-center with military weapons costs a 1000x times less than building one. I get it there are advantages to a consolidated cloud, but the current political leadership is insufficiently peace-minded for that.

>however, though we all would consider a lack of censorship as an advantage, you risk having the platform filled with bestiality and child porn and such illegal and disgusting content.

Oh bother, yeah i didn't really think about the toxic data sewage. I was primarily thinking about network efficiency, resiliency and muh-business-model that doesn't rely on adds.

>moderation is the real test of fire with social media. all the apps people used today are built on the backs of traumatized moderators who have to go through mountains of gore everyday to make the internet usable

There has to be a better way because the amount of content that can be created is increasing while the amount of humans moderating does not, so this scheme is living on borrowed time anyway.

We can probably also forget about using AI-moderation. There already are ways to tweak images to trick AIs to see something else than a human would. This AI-vision-interference stuff was invented because Artists wanted to prevent their images from being used to train AI. The fucking high-tech Luddites tried to invent a way to salt training data and ended up finding a way to hack AI vision. Since AI vision and human vision are so radically different, it's unlikely that the vision gap can be bridged, So you'll always be able to make an image where a human sees mentally traumatizing horror while the AI sees a cute kitten playing with a fish.

That leaves us with a scheme of users vouching for content quality. That should organically generate group-networks that vouch for specific types of (from their view-point) good content. That is quantifiable, and can be used to generate lists of content types that people can subscribe to. This can be combined with a type of content curator that seeks to find the good videos and then recommends them to people subscribed to that curator. That should fix the problem of traumatizing a bunch of people to keep the platform usable. Maybe it's better to focus on finding the good stuff and focusing all the attention on that, and then no attention goes toward the crud.

The data-sewage however would still be there, even it won't get any eyeballs. I don't really know what to do here, this feels like trying to build a road that only allows passage for virtuous people. That's too much of a moral burden for the construction worker that's operating the tarmac-machine. You can't really put a censorship mechanism into these things either because once you do that, you will recreate the social relations of organized religion, where you elevate a bunch of people to high priests that decide who gets excommunicated and what counts as heresy. Maybe the solution is creating a plurality of communities that each have their community-guide-lines, and then users join what ever communities they want, conceptually mimicking secular freedom of religion.

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