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 No.488795

In the USA, liberals, of course, seem to hate Trump. Even though their party of choice could not save them from Trump (and didn't even try), they continue to hate him and oppose him. However, as the image attached shows, they also seem to not understand leftism. They associate him with Communism, solely because they associate him with Russia. Since they hate Russia, with whom they associate Trump, and they associate Trump with Communism, they will be likely to reject leftism.

What I ask is this: do you think it is fruitful for American leftists to join liberals in anti-Trump demonstrations? Or should we instead have demonstrations of our own? Could liberal protests become an opportunity for educating liberals, or would attending merely make them more secure in their current ideology?
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 No.488796

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I thought this was alreayd the basic case at least in the united states. Leftists hate liberalism, but, surely the modern left is not so stupid that they are ok with fascism because it "took down the heckin liberalism arino" Right? Right?

They are talking about deporting US born citizens next to elsalvidor. If you think you are not on that list you are sadly mistaken. The people who post here and on org need to take this very seriously.
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 No.488797

>>488796
I agree with you. I am already of the opinion that we should join liberals in those issues in which we all agree, such as being anti-Trump. But one could say that leftists should simply start their own demonstrations, and not participate in liberal protests while not opposing them either. I am asking a question of strategy, not of principle.
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 No.488798

>>488795
I reject the basic premises.

Firstly, the implication of signs like in that image is foremost that Trump is "Russian," with the "Communist" imagery mostly being used as a dumb "gotcha!" and appeal to nationalism. That doesn't mean that no liberals believe it earnestly, but even of those it's not the majority. So basically you have a minority who hold up "Trump = Soviet Communist = bad!" signs and then a minority of those people who earnestly believe, on an intellectual level, that Trump is a Communist. It's a minority of a minority of liberals. I don't deny that that minority of a minority are stupid in that specific way and are holding stupid signs, but every time a guy on an image board is like "look at this one guy in a group of 10,000 people, is this everybody?" it seems odd.

secondly,
>What I ask is this: do you think it is fruitful for American leftists to join liberals in anti-Trump demonstrations? Or should we instead have demonstrations of our own? Could liberal protests become an opportunity for educating liberals, or would attending merely make them more secure in their current ideology?
I reject the premise of all three of these questions.
It is liberals, by which I mean the DNC specifically, who have sought to co-opt the existing protest movement. Under Biden there were massive protests, under Trump they continued. Even these recent "Hands Off!" protests, which have been something the liberal establishment have heavily aimed to direct and co-opt (to avoid the Palestinian genocide and crackdown on anti-Zionism which is a project of both the DNC & GOP) have seen participation, and in some cases continued local dominance, by the anti-genocide demonstrators who people like Pelosi seek to drown out or infiltrate. The left has not stopped protesting. The momentum is something the DNC has lost and is cynically moving to steal. It is not ours to reach out to liberals or to segregate ourselves from opposition to Zionist tyranny and repression by the American state, it is ours to continue to build the movement which the liberal voters, by increasing discomfort at their material conditions under a psychotic American failed state, are now compelled to meet on the streets.

Where protests are concerned, we literally only have to keep doing what we've been doing. As is already happening, the people will come to us. The DNC will try to co-opt it, and we will point out how weak and senile and evil they are, and the people will continue to agree. "Liberals" are our friends, "conservatives" are our friends, "Greens" and "Libertarians" and "centrists" are our friends; all workers who see what is wrong and ugly and repulsive and feel the passion for freedom and justice and a better life are our friends in taking the tyrant bastards down.
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>>488798
Are you american though?
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 No.488899

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MAGA's working class base is more class consciousness and Communist than 99% of ""leftists"" out there. They associate Trump with Communism for good reason (his working class base which wants popular sovereignty, not Trump himself).

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