/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>483782
Fred Hampton a communist of the Marxist Leninist kind and a civil rights fighter did more or less what you suggested. I think he called it the Rainbow-coalition. (to avoid confusion this was many decades ago when "Rainbow" had a different political meaning than today). He was successful, he got the Arian-brotherhood to talk to the Black-panthers. Sort of like a peace-maker that ends the clan-wars type of deal.

Fred Hampton also got gunned down by some kind of police agency, might have been the FBI, i might not remember the details correctly. There is some speculation that the US ruling class did this because maintaining racial conflict is like one of the pillars of political controle with parallels to cast systems.

Btw: "Pan Africanism", was the ideology related to Muamar Gadafi's project to create a political super-structure in some ways similar to the European Union, but for Africa. This was mainly about creating regional economic integration, to make Africa a big economic block. He also wanted to have a common currency called the Gold-Dinar. I think it was also backed by gold, since Libya (the country Gadafi ruled) has a lot of gold mines. I did not investigate this in depth but it seemed like a perfectly reasonable idea, nothing ominous like you suggested. Maybe there's people using the same word for something else ?

>How do you get them to realize they have a lot more in common with the white proletariat than the black bourgeosie?
Honestly i don't really know, solidarity is hard, in both directions.

Maybe there's a economic development in medicine or bio-tech that necessitates negating the racial stuff. Wouldn't that be convenient !

Maybe you could repackage Hampton's strategy, in a way that makes it less hazardous to implement.

>>483784
>maintaining racial conflict is like one of the pillars of political controle with parallels to cast systems
My go-to example from history to illustrate this point is Bacon's Rebellion: when indentured servants and slaves worked together with free farmers to overthrow the government of Virginia, it scared the ruling class so much that they implemented the Virginia Slave Codes, codifying black = slave in a way that had never been done before.

>>483790
So what's the political counter to "codifying people" ?

>>483782
You cannot. Until these uyghurs will actually get shredded 4 long enough in stupid identoid wars they would never ever want 2 see themselves as humans & not fucking uyghurs or chingchongs or wh@ever. something something dialectical materialism or some shit
Also, don't ask mr. Lemmin on the "pan-" faggotry question or else these shitskin bourg simps will hang & you will get thrown in jail by the former slaveowner families 4 disordering their diversity of conflict‒their greatest strength.

>ma massa blacq
>ayooo bixnood hyperuyghea kangz slaves (wiet) n shieeeeeet

>>483801
you are consistently the worst poster on this site

>>483802
Still not worse than the schizo who fills threads up with walls of garbage.

>>483806
Dont you dare talk about Eugene like that.

>>483801
????

>>483784
> He was successful, he got the Arian-brotherhood to talk to the Black-panthers.
Fred Hampton did not ally with the "Aryan Brotherhood" criminal lumpen white supremacist gang. He allied with the Young Patriots, which were a much more working class non-criminal group of people from Chicago who happened to use a confederate flag as a rebel symbol, mostly due to lack of education.

>>484016
Thanks for the correction.

You can't. Either members of a marginalized group voluntarily realizes idpol has failed them or they don't and keep insisting upon it. It comes down to the individual members of that group making personal choices. They are not a monolith. Each one of them will either choose class consciousness or false consciousness. Study the Jewish Labor Bund's split from the RSDLP before the Bolshevik-Menshevik split.

BLEACH their women

>>483782
>How do you get them to realize they have a lot more in common with the white proletariat than the black bourgeosie?
You are doing like every single black person is like this. Also comparing blacks who hate on whites to nazis is not a very good look. The structural racism (or at lest remnants of it - like the US police violence) still exists, so they kinda have a good reason to not like white people. I agree, the NOI, the radlibs etc. are idiots but they are by no means comparable to nazis.

Plus you don't have to get onboard every single one of them. We should talk with people who are willing to listen first.

>>483801
Corny

Western Black culture is reactionary as fuck, it's all dog eat dog hucksterism, worshipping sociopathic Lumpen behavior and pure narcissistic victim complex, On top of this, black culture is a very hard encoded "honor" based culture, which means you literally have to chimp out if you are "disrespected" and disrespect can quite literally mean anything, someone mishearing you or not aquessing to your retarded demands. Honor culture + Narcissistic victim complex = Black people are told and taught they are never ever responsible for their actions, if they go to jail for being a lumpen sociopath cunt, it's because whitey and corrupt cops just hate black people.
Leftist culture is on the other hand, a dignity culture, where people have a right to be treated ethically, Dignity/Honor cultures are diametrically opposed.
Most black people realise Idpol is bullshit and the reason they largely push it is pure grifting/power plays and getting free rides for bullshit jobs through middle management. Every black office worker chick basically wants that sweet DEI Consultancy $$$.
Getting black people to drop the grift is going to be hard, and it will largely likely only come about due to highly educated black people who reject retarded black culture actually forming a movement themselves. Shows like Boondocks tried to show how black culture and identity politics itself was toxic and Black people are their own worst enemy, but the message went over most people's head.

>t. Only half white, so got the unique position of growing up with one foot in both worlds.

>>484039
thank you very much for translating >>483801
have you considered a career in special education?

tnd

>Fringe political grifters represent the views of the black working class
>Black working class needs to saved despite being overrepresented in union membership

Why are you people like this?

>>487664
Socialists should try to recruit people from all social strata and backgrounds. There is nothing wrong with trying to appeal to blacks by speaking to their particular circumstances.

>>487667
Paternalistic babble.