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 No.4680[View All]

Its about time we talk about the connection between Harry Potter, Liberalism, and idpol.

and also how JK Rowling is the biggest blair simp
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 No.9980

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>>9352
>>9349
Didn't Little Witch Academia sort of ripoff this too?
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 No.10133

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>>9129 >>9139 Has some decent Bellatrix related posts. All I can add for now is that the beautiful Helena Bonham Carter player the part phenomenally. Also for a very crazy, evil villain (canonically), I, inexplicably, can't help but have some strange sympathy towards her, but not other Death Eaters or Voldemort… might be cause she's an attractive woman.
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 No.10633

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Hate to say no one mentioned this before, but obviously the Death Eaters and Voldemort are in some ways based on the IRA and the troubles in Ireland.It's safe to say that a British writer will use British tropes and not American ones. The KKK just look ridiculous to us, in their dunce’s caps, and the first two Potter books were written at the height of the IRA bombing campaign on the mainland, at a time when Islamists were barely a pinprick on the horizon. The Death Eaters are not a legitimate Party or ruling government nor do they have actual genocides en masse. Their activites are of a scale closer to the IRA's

to quote a quora poster Claire Jordan, "they parallel the IRA and other Irish paramilitaries. They wear black cloth hoods with eye-slits, like the Balaclava helmets worn by the IRA. Their period of activity, from 1970 to 1998, coincides with the height of the Irish Troubles to within a couple of years. The arguments about the Ministry becoming nearly as vicious as the terrorists they were fighting and secretly using torture and murder match real life arguments about British security services and the IRA, UDA etc. The terrorist attacks which the Death Eaters carry out in summer 1996 coincide with a spate of real-life IRA bombings on the British mainland.

"]Azkaban, with its prisoners going mad and starving to death and its mass break-out by Death Eaters, is an obvious parody of the real prison called The Maze, with its prisoners starving to death on hunger strike and its mass break-out by the IRA."

"The period of activity of the Death Eaters - 1970–1998 - coincides with the Irish Troubles - 1969–1998. Every Briton of my/Rowling’s generation grew up with Irish-origin terrorism as part of our everyday lives, with a minor attack (usually in Northern Ireland) three or four times a week and a major attack (often on the mainland) two or three times a year. The Death Eater attack on the Brockdale Bridge happens within a few weeks of the real IRA attack on the Docklands Light Railway, which runs on bridges."

"the IRA and INLA, the Republican side, were the main perpetrators of terrorism on the mainland and they were broadly communist and not racist, so they are not the origin of the racist aspect of the Death Eaters - but there were also Irish terrorists on the Unionist side, mainly confined to Northern Ireland, and they were of the far right, had links with the Waffen SS old boys’ network and were notorious for their use of torture."

At the end of the day J.K. Rowling uses a lot of different types of arch type imagery and references in her work along with generalize concepts that apply to people in different generations. In the end her work is a product of its time that continues to influence us today
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 No.10634

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>>4686
>>10633
> J.K. Rowling uses a lot of different types of arch type imagery and references in her work along with generalize concepts that apply to people in different generations. In the end her work is a product of its time that continues to influence us today
"I think Harry will take his place with Alice, Huck, Frodo, and Dorothy and this series is not just for the decade but for the ages." - Stephen King

>Harry Potter, however, is not over. Its appeal has endured, embarrassingly, among a scary proportion of self-consciously bookish liberals who use the series as a reference point for absolutely everything.


- https://theoutline.com/post/1181/liberals-your-harry-potter-political-references-are-embarrassing?zd=1&zi=zqy23qbg
- https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/01/harry-potter-magic-liberalism-fantasy-fetishism

>The BuzzFeedification of the internet over the past five or so years has also certainly played a role in this phenomenon. The ascent of the listicle encouraged journalists to churn out keyword-heavy but conceptually thin pop-culture mashups — most notably, the now-ubiquitous reimagined Disney princesses — and the result, selected for by sub-ideal conditions, is essentially a 16-year-old in a 30-year-old’s body.

&ltThe skillset needed to score a staff position within the dregs of new media is as follows: a thorough knowledge of three or four pop culture franchises often binge-watched by aimless college freshmen, a familiarity with the latest slang purloined from black teens, and, most importantly, a complete lack of self-regard. After BuzzFeed and Upworthy rebranded themselves as having serious news components, the clickbait mentality was carried over and subsequently escaped into the wider world of journalism like a fecally transmitted disease.
> In one sense she is right, but there is also a particularly neoliberal authoritarian fantasy to Potterworld. “Magic,” as it is discussed in the Harry Potter universe, is a force that allows its wielder to have a profound and measurable impact without organizing, sacrificing, or indeed doing much of anything. JK Rowling presents her reader a fantasy world in which “being really good at homework” makes you a literal superhero.
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 No.10690

>>9978
>or spin-off of anykind
but it did
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 No.10824

>>4699
I used to laugh so hard at how miscast and aggressive the new Dumberdore actor was. There's a scene in the 4th movie where he runs into a room shouting at Harry, shoves him against a stone wall and shakes him while shouting, "Harry! HARRY! HDID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?!" I think he might have even slapped him?


The kindly old man from the books was turned into a fucking thug. In every scene the new Dumberdore looked like he was glowering at someone and was ready to lunge and kill every single person at Hogwarts.
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 No.10849

>>10690
I pretend that Cursed Child and the Grindelwald movies didn't exist… their retcons and dumb bullshit are not worth the world-building.

What I meant as a spin-off would be something like The adventures of the Marauders in their school years or perhaps some stuff about the founders.

>>10824
Kek this, I wonder if the actor was having a really bad time while filming?
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 No.11177

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The new TitTok meme about "muh stereotypes" in Harry Potter are just such liberal cringe I sigh heavily like an old man.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/if-jk-rowling-had-a-stereotypical-character

Like FFS, Cho-Chang, whose race is hardly even mentioned in the story is in Ravenclaw, as a stereotype about "Asian's being smart" and I have to wonder… so fucking what? Even if this is the case (and it probably isn't) that has 0 impact on the story or her character (and her relationship to Cedric) and TBH the "smart asian" stereotype is a fucking compliment, because the entire implication is "oh yeah these people are super smart!"
Where is the downside here? It's not untrue in the least.

And the whole "muh Muslims" and "muh latinos!" is such burger-shit. Harry Potter was written in the 90s/2000s in BRITAIN, when the Muslim population wasn't high, and where Latinos aren't even a blip on the RADAR. Look at black characters in the series, where do you see racism? Angelina and Lee are both good folks whose race is barely even touched upon, hell NOBODY'S race is touched upon in detail because it doesn't matter! The point was a story about magic with a child of prophecy and his adventures in an ancient castle as he learned about the secret magic world and its inhabitants, while preparing to face Wizard Hitler.

The only TikToks that weren't boring as fuck was the one about "If Rowling wrote a slavic character" which is actually fucking accurate to the Klyukva meme ( http://lurkmore.to/Клюква )

TL;DR: Liberal idpol is moronic, and their attempts at humorous satire is poor.
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 No.11178

>>11177
>TBH the "smart asian" stereotype is a fucking compliment, because the entire implication is "oh yeah these people are super smart!"
Positive discrimination is still discrimination. Also ignores massive cultural influences for such a behaviors that westernized asians might not have anymore
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 No.11181

>>11178
>Positive discrimination is still discrimination
Bull fucking shit
>massive cultural influences for such a behaviors
The fuck are you talkin' about? I know Asian families, I grew up with one. Hell Read Amy Tan's work on her own family and it's fairly consistent.
>westernized asians might not have anymore
like I said, we know nothing racial about Cho-Chang besides her being asian and the (interpreted) stereotype of her being in Ravenclaw, despite it being shown that this is not racial at all, demonstrated with the Parvati Sisters being split between Ravenclaw and Gryffindor (which makes the other Tiktok about "Rowling's Indians" also bullshit, since we see no stereotypical stuff about Indians)
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 No.11659

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>>4817
>>4738
>>4768
Responding to an old post but whatever.
>Harry having Ron as his best friend is some kind of class-collaboration meme
It sort of reflects the whole relation between Bilbo Baggins and Samwise too. Ron honestly is an overhated and underrated character who gets really poorly portrayed in the movies compared to the books.
Related post in the Fantasy thread equating Hobbits and Weasleys >>11623
>all the main characters drop out in the last book
Nah, the Weasley's dropped out a year before the events of Half Blood Prince, and most of the people who drop out during Deathly Hallows were muggle-borns and half-bloods who had to escape. (TBH I don't get why they didn't just escape into the Muggle society, Death Eaters are absolutely shit at what they know of Muggle life, so hunting down Muggle-borns would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
>the idea that evil plans would unravel because people choose to do the right thing while villains anticipate they will be selfish
Are you sure it was ripped off from LOTR? Tolkien may have coined the termin, however such a story trope has existed for long before that. This is a plot point of Batman: The Dark Knight as well.
>falls apart if the villain is savvy enough to plan according to good people trying to be good
True enough I suppose
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 No.11663

>>4691
Dude, you can like Harry Potter so long as you keep it separate from your perception of reality.
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 No.11666

>>11663
1) That post is from the very beginning of the thread and is almost 1/2 year old, you're lucky I'm actually still around
2) That's sort of my point, people on /leftypol/ (back when this board was newer) tended to have kneejerk reactions to Harry Potter content and the like.
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 No.11679

>>11177
>and TBH the "smart asian" stereotype is a fucking compliment, because the entire implication is "oh yeah these people are super smart!"
The point is that all racial stereotypes are harmful, regardless of whether you view some of them positively or not, because they are about making statements about a whole racial category, implying all the people are homogenous, thus de-humanising them. We recognise variety in Humans, while we make general statements about whole animal populations, "dogs are this way", "cats are that way".
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 No.11684

>>11679
This really should not be an argument to have in a Harry Potter thread.
>all racial stereotypes are harmful
Except they aren't unless a specific stereotype is meant to be negative, the whole "but it puts pressure on individuals" is fucking bullshit, because nobody except racists are going to assume a stereotype applies 100% to all members of a group. Asian kids who struggle with math and school are more likely to be faced with pressure from their parents than other kids or society.
>because they are about making statements about a whole racial category, implying all the people are homogenous, thus de-humanising them
Except that's not true, that's just a liberal assumption. It's the same kind of crap as "Orcs are black people", it speaks more of the internal racism of people who 'notice' this, than the racism of a depiction. A stereotype does not arise out of nothing, it arises from widespread displays of ethnic culture.
>while we make general statements about whole animal populations
variety =/= presence of general traits.
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 No.11976

>>4736
You are rally insecure about intelligence. Every post you make is aggressively insulting people about their intelligence. Why didn't you fart out your own one instead of wasting all this time being a shit person? Is it because of what I said at the start and you think people will treat you like a subhuman? If this is how you build yourself up (idealist-brained) then yeah I bet your ego would take a sledgehammer blow.

You didn't type one. No one else had. So where do you get off? You think you can treat people like that for no reason at all that isn't some religious idea that everyone is not being Lenin.

Harry Potter is written by some fuckin Veronica Tuppensworth bourgy. The best anyone will want to do is a "radlib" (what) pointing out of her ideas can be related to something in the real world but her cartoonish ignorance of how the world works means Voldemort is Hitler and took over the ministry of magic and all his evil dudes wore black cloaks and shoot skulls in the air because that's scary and aesthetics is more important than strategy.

You can't apply dialectical materialism to liberal ideals. Harry Potter isn't real. Yeah also why the hell is Comrade Voldemort leading his cadre against Hogwarts? None of this is fun when you are going to call everyone a gay piece of shit because of some shit like the elder wand. Ideas like this and individualism are basically like if we said finding the spear that pierced Christ's side is what we need to take down international bourgeoisie.

Am I missing something here? Diamats cant demystify new words. That's her job making Hagrid quadriplegic micropenis
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 No.11977

>>11976
Took you 5 months to make a response to a post from the very beginning of the thread and you couldn't even spell half your shit right. Christ.
>Every post you make is aggressively insulting people
The only post being responded to has ONE phrase that can be presumed as an insult; "Are you retarded?" By that metric I can claim your posts are also aggressively insulting people.
>fart out your own one instead of wasting all this time being a shit person
My own what? What are you even trying to say here
>this is how you build yourself up
&ltmuh ego
&ltmuh idealism
Stop using words you don't understand.
>You didn't type one
type one what? What are you even responding to?
>where do you get off?
Where do you, child?
>her cartoonish ignorance of how the world works means Voldemort is Hitler and took over the ministry of magic and all his evil dudes wore black cloaks and shoot skulls in the air because that's scary and aesthetics is more important than strategy.
Read the posts in the thread and stop making ignorant generalizations as if it's some kind of revelation about Harry Potter.
>You can't apply dialectical materialism to liberal ideals
NThe concept of scarcity/post-scarcity has nothing to do with liberal ideals you speed-reading dumbass.
>Harry Potter isn't real
Ya Dannae fookin' sei!?
>None of this is fun when you are going to call everyone a gay piece of shit
Are you responding to JK Rowling or to a post you incoherent shitposter?
>That's her job making Hagrid quadriplegic micropenis
What autism is this?
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 No.12162

What are the best fanfic elaborations/explanations and creative spells of magic of Harry Potter?
Outside of what is mentioned in post >>5174 from Iruka and the Will of Fire and the various Egyptian and Houngan spells and magical creatures created by Starfox5 in their fics
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11910994/1/Divided-and-Entwined
I can't remember any decent fanon spells that aren't OP or really stupid (for varying reasons).
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 No.12163

>>11177
>Wizard Hitler
Oh you mean Himmler
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 No.12168

>>12163
… Why Himmler? Is it because of the occultist formation of his followers?
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 No.12170

>>11684
>the whole "but it puts pressure on individuals" is fucking bullshit,
But then you say:
>Asian kids who struggle with math and school are more likely to be faced with pressure from their parents than other kids or society.
Thanks for arguing against yourself for me.
>A stereotype does not arise out of nothing, it arises from widespread displays of ethnic culture.
A display needs an observer, someone to perceive the display, so we go back to the point that stereotypes speak "more of the internal racism of people who 'notice' [them]", rather than them being a reflection of actual behaviour of an ethnic group. Besides, stereotypes for people vary from culture to culture, showing that stereotypes depend more on the culture in which they are formed, rather than on the culture on which they are based. For example, the stereotype that "asians are smart" relies that the culture in which the stereotype is formed has several things, including, but not limited to: a hierarchical educational system (can't call others smarter if you don't have educational rankings); a belief that some races can be superior to others (remember, we're not talking about different, we're talking about better/smarter); a belief that doing well in math and science, and/or classical instruments, is a sign of intelligence (very Western-centric, don't you think?). Now, if two cultures do not share these features, then it is unlikely that they would come up with the same stereotype for Asian people. AND THEREFORE, stereotypes are about the people making them, not about people receiving them. Q.E.D. motherfucker.
>variety =/= presence of general traits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_animals
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 No.12173

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>>12168
Dude owned a wizard castle.
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 No.12178

>>12170
Why are you restarting this bloody argument again? IRL racial bullshit is a derail of the thread.
>Thanks for arguing against yourself for me
I didn't you're cherry picking my argument and ignoring the details when I specifically denied dealing in absolutes in such an issue.
>stereotypes speak "more of the internal racism of people who 'notice' [them]"
You do realize that I am not stupid and recognize that you took this right from (my) post about how Orcs are not a representation of Africans and it is racist to assume that. You are twisting my words to an utterly different situation.
Stereotypes are a widely held belief or image of something or someone that is somewhat oversimplistic. This does not exclude it being largely accurate about a general population.
Jewish stereotypes are largely true, the differences is how they are presented. How do I know this? because I am part-jewish and grew up among them and I know my own community. I am also part Asian, I know their attitudes. The stereotype of smart Asians arose from factual evidence - Asian kids getting higher grades and scores, to the point where even /pol/ admits this, despite their anti-chinese hatred. The pressure I spoke of before would exist without the stereotype as well, because the whole stereotype exists BECAUSE parents pushed their children to do their best of face consequences.
>stereotypes for people vary from culture to culture, showing that stereotypes depend more on the culture in which they are formed, rather than on the culture on which they are based
The Asian stereotype about high grades and workaholics is accurate in and out of Asia. This is a fairly obvious thing given that it is somewhat of a social problem in Japan and China.
>a hierarchical educational system (can't call others smarter if you don't have educational rankings)
Heirarchy =/= bad
Socialism is against social heirarchy like class, race or gender superiority/inferiority. Japan was influenced by the USSR in its education system.

Some people ARE smarter than others and some people do better than others. Socialism does not deny this, as is writtten many times, it is not 'Uravnovilovka'
>a belief that some races can be superior to others
Not necessarily. Asian is not a race any more than South American is not a race. They are cultures and as we see win /pol/ you can admit to educational superiority of 1 culture without conceding that the culture itself is superior. This depends on the ideology at hand, not on the stereotype in and of itself.
>a belief that doing well in math and science, and/or classical instruments, is a sign of intelligence
&ltWestern-centric
And yet again you're wrong. Such a concept exists in the East and the South, because it is the concept of a developed civilization where it has materially developed enough that knowledge has grown in importance to society.
>if two cultures do not share these features
But they do
>it is unlikely that they would come up with the same stereotype for Asian people
But they have
>THEREFORE, stereotypes are about the people making them, not about people receiving them
Except in this case and often enough, they are. The general fact of the matter is, your argument only applies to a stereotype that fits your definition and the 'Smart Asian Stereotype' does not fit this category.

>Q.E.D.

Stay mad, you proved nothing but your own cultural absolutism and ignorance. It's frankly hilarious how much this reminds me of white liberals shouting down african-americans who talk about how ghetto-culture causes way more deaths than even cops do. Or people talking about how 'pro-gay' Indians were only for a real gay Indian to tell them off for making shit up.

>Stereotypes of animals

Hilarious no-argument.
1) Human stereotypes are societal, animal stereotypes are based on what amounts to urban legends of the limited behaviors we supposedly see. We do not live constantly in the presence of Owls or see their activities much, we do see and experience the activities of other humans however.
2) The stereotypes of animals exist as much from mythology and as stated "anthropomorphization" of them as they are from real observed traits. While some are inaccurate (like those about bats, others are very much accurate, such as Beavers, Bears and more).
If anything your link confirms my argument, outliers of something are not applicable to the general trend of it.

Now we shall argue this no longer, before this shit gets a ban for derail.
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 No.12179

>>12173
Oh yeah, I knew that… but wouldn't that make Dumbledore Himmler!?
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 No.12182

>>12178
>that is somewhat oversimplistic
>largely accurate
pick one.
>Jewish stereotypes are largely true, the differences is how they are presented.
Fuck off.
>How do I know this? because I am part-jewish and grew up among them and I know my own community.
No way to confirm that, and even if it were true, it wouldn't matter. Just because you are part Jewish doesn't mean you can't hate Jews.
>The stereotype of smart Asians arose from factual evidence - Asian kids getting higher grades and scores,
Would this stereotype arise in a culture without grades and scores?
>Socialism is against social heirarchy like class, race or gender superiority/inferiority. Japan was influenced by the USSR in its education system.
You've identified yourself as a /pol/yp, especially by first coming to /leftypol/ to "explain" socialism to people, and second by explaining it like a retard.
>Asian is not a race any more than South American is not a race. They are cultures and as we see win /pol/ you can admit to educational superiority of 1 culture without conceding that the culture itself is superior.
Fuck you, don't even try to make this about "level of education within cultures". That's not what the "Asian stereotype" is. No one is saying asian people are smarter because of their educational system, they're saying they're smarter because they're Asian.
>But they do
If they share those features, then they're the same fucking culture.
>Such a concept exists in the East and the South, because it is the concept of a developed civilization where it has materially developed enough that knowledge has grown in importance to society.
Yes, because for the last 200 years the world has been getting increasingly connected, capitalism has brought everything under its mode of production and market. So no shit that the educational system in countries will be similar, because it is the kind of educational system that prepares people for work in industrial society.
>1) Human stereotypes are societal, animal stereotypes are based on what amounts to urban legends of the limited behaviors we supposedly see.
You must be trolling. Stereotypes are "urban legends of the limited behaviors we supposedly see". Unless every single Asian you see randomly drops down and starts doing complex math equations on the sidewalk. Not everyone is a teacher, so I know not everyone is observing these amazing Asian school scores. Only a fraction of the population gets to see student scores, and only those who work in schools where there are Asians. So are you trying to say it's the teachers who are spreading these Asian stereotypes around the globe?
>2) The stereotypes of animals exist as much from mythology and as stated "anthropomorphization" of them as they are from real observed traits.
Sound a lot like fucking human stereotypes to me.
>Now we shall argue this no longer, before this shit gets a ban for derail.
You're losing the argument bro, you don't get to decide when it's over, unless you want to admit defeat and tap out.
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 No.12186

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>>12182
>pick one
&lthurr Imma ignore the context of two phrases to create a false dichotomy
fuck off
>fuck off
No u. Are you a jew? Have you lived with them? Talked with them? Read their literature and partaken in their culture? I fucking live it.
>Just because you are part Jewish doesn't mean you can't hate Jews
That's not an argument whiner, saying that Jewish stereotypes are often correct is not "hating jews" anymore than disliking zionists or Israel is.
>Would this stereotype arise in a culture without grades and scores
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
>You've identified yourself as a /pol/yp
No, you're just projecting
>coming to /leftypol/
I'm an oldfag who was here since the days of Aidan-Chaya poster and before /leftpol/ split on 8ch, piss off
>"explain" socialism to people
That makes 90% of all posters on this site /pol/ Good job at creating an utterly meaningless determination
>like a retard
Says your liberal arse? Your bourg moral-faggotry isn't socialism
>don't even try to make this about "level of education within cultures"
It's not you fucking speedreading assmad liberal. It's about the grades and measurements we see given as statistics according to ethnicity/culture you twit. Or do you deny that Asian people score higher in IQ tests, grades, scores, college qualifications etc.? Do you deny that Japan and China and numerous other Asian countries have workaholic cultures that - completely independent of any American stereotyping - push their members to excel or fail?
>o one is saying asian people are smarter because of their educational system, they're saying they're smarter because they're Asian
No that's only retarded /pol/ racefaggots and YOU. Most people who talk about the smart-asian stereotype are also aware that it comes with the "overbearing parent" stereotype, which is why we have "dishonor on your family" humor in media relating to Asians. That's an accurate representation as is seen in Asian works like those of Amy Tan.
>If they share those features, then they're the same fucking culture
You're a speedreading brainlet. The material dialectics of society progress in similar manners, and while there are differences, they all share certain traits and cultural features of some variability.
>because for the last 200 years the world has been getting increasingly connected
&ltcapitalism has brought everything under its mode of production and market
Except as I pointed out, JAPAN'S EDUCATION SYSTEM IS INFLUENCED BY THE USSR, and THE US EDUCATION SYSTEM HAS CHANGED MULTIPLE TIMES DUE TO IT BEING A FAILURE, WITH ASIAN STUDENTS OFTEN REFERRING TO TUTORS AND RUSSIAN MATH SCHOOL TO ACTUALLY GET DECENT EDUCATION.
China also imitated the USSR, and while its economy has become revisionist, it's education system is not.
>Unless every single Asian you see randomly drops down and starts doing complex math equations on the sidewalk.
You're just being an obtuse absolutist playing at semantics. That's not how statistics work;; let me give you a Layman's explanation: if you take a poll or a survey or any other data collection method there will be general trends and outliers. The General trend observable in education, business and real life is that Asian people achieve better results. This is a fact, deal with it. Outliers of "some Asians aren't smart or achieving much" is called an OUTLIER and is not part of a general trend. Fuck me this is tutoring highschool students all over again.
>Not everyone is a teacher, so I know not everyone is observing these amazing Asian school scores
They are published for public viewing and Asian kids are, y'know, not the only people in their schools, there are other kids, parents etc. who do see or hear these things.
>So are you trying to say it's the teachers who are spreading these Asian stereotypes around the globe?
No, that's just your projection, because your understanding of social trends is retarded. Your own point about capitalism connecting the world literally shows this you dope.
>Sound a lot like fucking human stereotypes
Sounds like projection to me
>You're losing the argument
So you claim
&ltyou don't get to say
Sure I do
>tap out
Hurr, whoever says the last word is the winner!!!
I shan't engage with you longer after this post, however I will say that you're the encapsulation of virtue-signalling radlib pity-politics with a colossal amount of strawmen, false-equvalencies, smug self-assurance and dogmatic absolutism spat out like shit from an air-cannon, all while comfortably shielded by obtuse, ignorant statements and cherrypicking, patronizing a minority over a projected insult.
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 No.12187

>>12183
>reddit
what are you expecting from radical liberals who see things in black/white and take politics at face value.
On the otherhand there are like 3 different comments calling this out, so it's not uncriticized an attitude
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 No.12196

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>>12186
>pick one
&lthurr Imma ignore the context of two phrases to create a false dichotomy
It's the same fucking sentence, you idiot. You just don't know what a sentence fragment is.
>Stereotypes are a widely held belief or image of something or someone that is somewhat oversimplistic. This does not exclude it being largely accurate about a general population.
Should be:
&ltStereotypes are widely held beliefs[,] or images of something or someone[,] that [are] somewhat oversimplistic[;] this does not exclude [them] being largely accurate about a general population.
Again
&ltStereotypes are widely held beliefs that are somewhat oversimplistic, however this does not preclude them from being largely accurate about a general population.
It's the same fucking sentence, and you contradicted yourself. "muh context"
>Are you a jew? Have you lived with them? Talked with them? Read their literature and partaken in their culture? I fucking live it.
And you base your stereotypes of all Jews on your tiny lived experience in one tiny region of the world.
>inb4 I'm a traveling Torah salesman
Most Jews I've met have been nothing like the American Jewish stereotype.
>What the fuck are you even trying to say?
You're acting all smart, yet you couldn't even understand a simple point. My point is that grades, tests and hierarchical education are human inventions, that do not exist in every single human society. Societies without these things would not be able to form the stereotype of Asians being smarter because they might not have the concept of "smarter". If you think the world is some sort of homogenous place, you need to get off the internet and walk around a bit.
>I'm an oldfag who was here since the days of Aidan-Chaya poster and before /leftpol/ split on 8ch, piss off
And in all that time you managed to learn fuck all and still remain a retard. Why are you even here?
>That makes 90% of all posters on this site /pol/ Good job at creating an utterly meaningless determination
Lurk moar.
>Your bourg moral-faggotry isn't socialism
What?
&ltthis thing> isn't socialism
You keep talking like a /pol/yp.
>It's about the grades and measurements we see given as statistics according to ethnicity/culture you twit.
All bullshit, have more to do with economics, child nutrition, home environment and social environment, than it does with "ethnicity/culture".
>Or do you deny that Asian people score higher in IQ tests, grades, scores, college qualifications etc.?
I deny that if what you say is true, it is due to genetics and "culture" (poorly defined term in this conversation, can mean anything). They score better for a number of reasons: their educational systems focus on test-taking, so they're not "smarter", just better at taking tests; a lot of this info comes from Asian immigrants in North America, which obviously selects for the well-off (who can afford such an expensive move), therefore the children will have better educational opportunities; and so on.

Besides, Estonia ranks better in math, science and reading than Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
https://factsmaps.com/pisa-2018-worldwide-ranking-average-score-of-mathematics-science-reading/
Only several Asian countries appear on top of the list, but what about the rest? Vietnma, Laos, Cambodia, India, Bangladesh, Burma, Philippines, etc. do they have these "smart Asian" stereotypes attached to them?
Or wait a minute, are these stereotypes just based on successful immigrant groups in the United States? :o What a crazy idea! Think about it.
>Most people who talk about the smart-asian stereotype are also aware that it comes with the "overbearing parent" stereotype, which is why we have "dishonor on your family" humor in media relating to Asians.
You're basing your arguments and knowledge on fucking Hollywood movies.
>The material dialectics of society progress in similar manners, and while there are differences, they all share certain traits and cultural features of some variability.
>material dialectics of society progress
>material dialectics
What, pray, are the "material dialectics of society", and how do they "progress"?
>inb4 they progress in similar manners
>China also imitated the USSR, and while its economy has become revisionist, it's education system is not.
Marx never wrote on education (unless in some letter in passing that I haven't seen) and I don't know any early Marxist literature on education. So how can education be "revisionist" or "non-revisionist"? Oh that's write, you're a retarded /pol/yp who doesn't know what the words he's using mean. Don't you fucking get that we're not your stupid fascist friends and you can't fool people here just by using leftist terminology. "Materialism", "dialectics", "revisionism", all these words have definitions, and when you use them incorrectly it stands out like a sore thumb. LURK MOAR
>The General trend observable in education, business and real life is that Asian people achieve better results.
>general trends in real life
And how do we measure "real life"? God you're so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.
>Fuck me this is tutoring highschool students all over again.
Stupid, and transparent. Kid, it's fucking obvious you're a kid, because no one talks about "measuring real life" or "measuring business". Those are absolutely silly claims made by an immature mind.
>trends and outliers
Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? "trends and outliers" fucking lol
>They are published for public viewing
You think student grades are published for public viewing? Lol, where did you see that, Starship Troopers?
>I shan't engage with you longer after this post
Of course you won't, because you keep embarrassing yourself. I wouldn't either if I were you.
>however I will say that blah blah blah
Didn't read that part, fuck you.
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 No.12204

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>>12196
>pic
Ok internet tough guy, do try this kind of stupid whining in a ghetto, see how that goes for you.
>all this shit.
As I said, I'm not engaging your half-arsed fallacies and no-arguments especially when they rely on ignoring context and blog-post articles. None of what you stated is even a decent response, it's all deflection, and smug assertion that "I'm right"
Your only point is about Estonia and even then all it is, is another Outlier. Your comparison to South East Asia is also fallacious, as not only is it obvious that India
>muh /pol/
>muh genetics
I never brought up genetics, YOU did, nice projection. Pointing out that liberalism is not socialism, is the very opposite of /pol/ who love to strawman and associate liberal idpol (such as yours) with /leftypol/ despite us being anti-idpol from the beginning.
>base your stereotypes of all Jews on your tiny lived experience in one tiny region of the world
How would you know? I've known jews from Israel, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Belorus, America, France and more. I know our history and know our habits.
For example there is a stereotype, portrayed as negative by Nazis - but otherwise not - that states that Jews often become doctors, dentists, jewelers and other artisan or intelligentsia-type work. This arose from MATERIAL SOCIETAL CHANGES wherein historical anti-semitism excluded most Jews from land-ownership and farming, resulting in them pursuing work in other areas that they excelled in, to the jealousy of fascists. Over time, this became a part of the culture, with parents pushing their children towards these professions as part of cultural standards. The only negative part of this is that fascists are mad over it, as are you. Same applies to Smart Asians. Given that I have Asian family and they're quite strict - as is the common trend confirmed by sociological study - the pressure for excelling in study and results are a general trend that is independent of any stereotype you are offended by. PERIOD. Stop pretending to be the voice for people who don't want nor need your protection from such inane things. Focus on real racism… such as /pol/'s obsessive anti-chinese dehumanization; THOSE are issues worth addressing, and not something so petty.
>Marx never wrote on education
&ltlet's conveniently ignore Soviet efforts on education and it being considered one of the best systems in the world.
It it really so hard to do basic research or do you like showing yourself as a theorylet? There is a literal section in Capital dedicated to 'Education'. Marxists.org has been around for a long time, use it.
https://www.marxists.org/subject/education/index.htm
>hurr ur a kid
&ltnobody talks about "measuring real life" or "business"
Huh apparently statisticians and economists and sociologists who JOB is to do exactly that and interpret the data, are now immature children. Amazing logic
>Didn't read
Just like the rest
>fuck you
Like I said, stay mad.
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 No.12228

>>12204
>As I said, I'm not engaging
And neither am I then. Stopped reading there. You can fuck off with that kind of bad faith discussion.
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 No.12586

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS3y1Q3mFVw
Harry Potter with Guns is a fairly amusing shitpost, rather well made for one too.

It's rather amusing but in the actual story context would be quite interesting a change. Divided and Entwined by Starfox5 has Hermione and the Muggleborns use guns and bombs to their advantage, outright killing most of the Death Eaters by doing IRA-type attacks on gatherings. There's also an interesting part where Voldemort uses an old WW-2 bomb from the Blitz to frame them by having them engage with some fodder Death Eaters at Longbottom Manor and detonating it when the Aurors arrive, crippling their forces and putting the muggle-borns in bad light, while also directly demonstrating that the Blitz did, in fact, affect the magical population in WW-2 Britain.
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 No.12590

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I don't really give a fuck about PS5 or vidya, but this trailer for Hogwarts Legacy was really neat IMO. I hope someone makes a username of "Ebony Darkness Dementia Ravenway"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O6Qstncpnc
The only disappointing thing in the trailer is the lack of the original Hedwig Theme and just parodies the Avengers Endgame theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP3xyNqYS7k

Speaking of Harry Potter Vidya, it seems the new part of Hogwarts Mystery is being released, so looking forward to more Merula autism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qywet1XQ8AQ

Also maybe we'll finally get an animated spinoff of Harry Potter made by fans (and not slash-fiction made canon).
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 No.12691

>>11659
>I don't get why they didn't just escape into the Muggle society
>Death Eaters are absolutely shit at what they know of Muggle life, so hunting down Muggle-borns would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
This is actually a basic plot-point in Starfox5's Divided and Entwined
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 No.12707

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Something I really like about the 5th movie is the line "Nice one James!" by Sirius in the Department of Mysteries. It’s a nod to one of the subplots of the fifth book, perhaps even the main subplot. Many adults, like Sirius and Snape, have difficulty telling James and Harry apart despite their differences in character, largely due to their similar looks, Quidditch skills, and daring heroic personalities.
In both cases it is merely due the fact that he doesn't know Harry as his own person very well yet and it's human nature to view children as extensions of their parents. Couple that with the loneliness he was feeling, stuck at Grimmauld Place and it's not out of the ordinary that, at that moment, he wanted Harry to be more like his old friend. Sirius is constantly being reminded through the book that Harry is not James, and suffers a lapse of deep disappointment when he himself realizes that Harry is more different than he would like. This is all subtle build up to the infamous Snape’s Worst Memory scene where we see firsthand James behave in ways quite alien to Harry’s character. It doesn’t help that Sirius WANTS to see as much as James in Harry as possible. He blames himself for the death of James since he persuaded James to use Peter, and he is not fully psychologically capable of accepting that James is dead (on a subconcsious level). He hopes that if enough of James is channeled through Harry then he can relive his lost years from Azkaban. However at the same time he knows the two are different; Sirius breaks out of Azkaban out of fear that Pettigrew will harm Harry, leaves some southern paradise to live as a dog and eat rats because Harry needed him, and most importantly, explicitly tells Harry that he was a much better person than James was at the same age - i.e. he is fully aware of how different the two are.

Since the film is too cramped to cover this, this line was what they settled for.

A LiveJournal User named Cleolinda* made an excellent post about why this works;
‘"Nice one, James!" was such a wonderful bit of screenwriting economy. It expressed everything that was going on in that relationship, and Radcliffe shot Oldman this wonderful look right after … "like he realized something about Sirius that he hadn't before and it was so sad." And no, I don't think that Harry = James is all there was to his relationship with Sirius, because there was a lot at play there–both of them needing a family, Harry in particular needing some kind of mentor-father (particularly after Dumbledore began to distance himself), Sirius seeing not only James but himself in Harry (where "running away to the Potters' " equals "practically being adopted by the Weasleys," for example), Sirius wanting to recapture the Three Musketeers vibe of his youth, and so on. There are a lot of little love stories in the HP books, many of them more parental or brotherly instead of romantic, and I think Sirius and Harry is one of them, but I think Sirius and James is another, and "Nice one, James!" was the moment when Harry realized how they overlapped, and how Sirius might not be living–might not be able to live–in the present.’

In the book, Molly warns Sirius that Harry isn’t James in a separate scene - scriptwriting economy combines the whole lot of implications above into a single beautiful Freudian Slip. It can also be interpreted to allude to one of Snape' terrible memories; in the fifth movie, when James flips Snape upside down, Sirius says "Nice one James!" as well.

“He's not a child!" said Sirius impatiently. "He's not an adult either!" said Mrs. Weasley, the color rising in her cheeks. "He's not James, Sirius!" "I'm perfectly clear who he is, thanks, Molly," said Sirius coldly. "I'm not sure you are!" said Mrs. Weasley. "Sometimes, the way you talk about him, it's as though you think you've got your best friend back!”

*(known for Movies in 15 Minutes; https://m15m.livejournal.com/2237.html)
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 No.12727

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>>12707
Speaking of moments the movie did better
I have 2 others off the top my head
First is where Harry gets his solution to the 2nd Task in Goblet of Fire;
Whereas in the book Dobby is the one who overhears a staged conversation about gillyweed and gets it to Harry at the last second just before the Second Task of the Triwizard Tournament, in the movie they clean up the storyline by having Neville talk about Herbology, thus directly firing that Chekov's gun set earlier with Madeye. The book not having Neville do it (and having Madeye berate Harry for not listening to his friend) just makes Harry look far stupider than he otherwise is.

Neville: "You know, if you're interested in plants, you should use Goshawk's Guide To Herbology. There's someone in Tibet who's growing gravity resistant trees…"
Harry: "Neville, no offense, but I really don't care about plants. Now, if there's a Tibetan turnip that will help me breathe underwater for an hour, great. But otherwise…"
Neville: "I don't know about turnips, but you could always use gillyweed."
In this case, dear Neville is the saviour of the day.

The Second is when Umbridge is taken to the Forbidden Forest and Umbridge is being apprehended by Grawp and a forest full of angry centaurs, she cries out, "Please, tell them I mean no harm!"
And Harry answers "Sorry Professor, but I must not tell lies" which provides excellent sass and a witty return of the blood-quill punishment she was handing out to him. this is one of very few instances that I will concede the movie picked up on a brilliant idea that the book did not.
of course it really made the 'centaur rape' meme blow up among the fans lol
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 No.12810

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(This is all spoilers, for newfags)
So a while back when I was reading Half-Blood Prince there was the plot point of the curse on Dumbledore's arm from the Gaunt's ring (with resurrection stone) that had been made one of Voldemort's Horcruxes which 'ensured' Dumbledore's death within the year. Unfortunately this creates a problem because it would seem much more expedient to then hurry and eliminate any known horcruxes while Dumbledore and his considerable power was still around… or even use amputation to sever the maimed arm and replace it with a prosthetic. There are three in-universe options - either He didn’t think of doing so, He didn’t want to do so or Doing so would make no difference to the outcome. The simplest reason overall is Rowling simply didn't think of amputation while writing the story. She just wanted to kill off Dumbledore and didn't quite think through the means used.

The curse: https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Curse_on_Marvolo_Gaunt%27s_ring

If Amputation could have helped, an interesting short-text for the amputation written out: https://archive.is/GW8yd
Moreover Dumbledore is known to be a wizard of equal or of greater skill than Voldemort. Voldemort was capable of making a new hand for Pettigrew after he cut his off so that Voldemort could be revived. However it could have been dark magic (as the hand did turn on Peter) and unlike Peter, it would have been removed from a curse, which as injuries do not recover easily (Deathly Hallows, when George get's his ear cursed off
In Iruka and Will of Fire (mentioned in anothere post), this is also (sort of) done during the Horcrux hunt at the Gaunt Shack.
And interesting idea of why Dumbledore could simply not have thought of it is something poetic; Most Pureblood wizards don't know much about muggles, including their medicine. We've been amputating for centuries because wounds that can't be healed fester, necrotize and spread. However, the vast majority of wounds in the wizarding world are easy to heal and this is the only curse in the books that spreads this way. There would never really be a need for amputations. In other words, it never would have entered their minds. Sure, Dumbledore tends to keep abreast of the muggle world but even still I doubt he knew much about muggle medical practice. However, if he had told more than just Snape about his condition, someone who knew more about muggle medical practices (like Mr. Weasley and his stitches), it could have healed him. Dumbledore being so secretive was ultimately what lead to his death…and it certainly fits the tone the 7th book took towards Dumbledore's character…he was a great man who had faults and made mistakes. However this feels a bit too unlikely, as Mad-Eye Moody probably DID get amputated, though alternatively the clunky prosthetic may have been why Dumbledore didn't want the prosthetic during a key time.

When Harry goes into his Pensieve in Deathly Hallows, we hear Snape say two things about the curse:
- “It is a miracle you managed to return here!” Snape sounded furious. “That ring carried a curse of extraordinary power, to contain it is all we can hope for; I have trapped the curse in one hand for the time being —” And Snape hesitated, and then said, “I cannot tell. Maybe a year. There is no halting such a spell forever. It will spread eventually, it is the sort of curse that strengthens over time.” - (Deathly Hallows, P. 681)
Which implies that the curse was like a late-stage cancer, even removing the affected area will not remove the cell damage spread throughout the body and it will come back over time. It also resembles Brown Recluse Spider bites, wherein hideous, necrotic wounds, resistant to conventional healing and often preventing skin growth or grafting, and cutting away the bite and necrosis does not ensure it being stopped, because venom doesn't remain isolated at the place of bite. Analysis of victim's blood showed venom proteins quickly spread throughout the body; remaining active for a long time.
The withering-away or "mummification" of Dumbledore's hand, proceeds in the fashion of a Brown Recluse bite; only instead of an organic protein-based toxin, it had involved a magical toxin-like counterpart. In other words the withering of Dumbledore's hand had only been the visible and main manifestation of the "curse-toxins." Like the spider-venom counterpart, as well, a major quantity of "curse-toxins" had already proceeded up the arm, and were circulating throughout Dumbledore's body. Or it could simply be magic Gangrene. However, if that was the case, could not Phoenix tears save him?

Of course since this is magic and not science, we don’t know how the curse operates; if you chop the hand off, the “thing” that’s keeping the curse suppressed might break and then it could just continue to spread up the arm as the hand comes off. Since Dumbledore and Snape hadn't talked about having Dumbledore reprise the famous old Celtic Magister's role, right down to the wearing of a precious-metal hand, I'd assumed the wound would inexorably continue to "mummify," no matter how high-up (how far from the "mummy-hand") they chose to amputate.

It also could have been an intentional sacrifice and a subconscious self punishment:
- Dumbledore and Snape knew that Draco was given a mission to kill the Headmaster, and if amputation was not a final solution and just a delay at best, then Dumbledore may have considered Draco’s best interests as well as his own. Knowing that he was dying anyway, amputation or otherwise, he chose death in this way would have been his way of protecting Draco from either being a murderer and from being killed for failing Voldemort.*
- Assuming that amputation would at best delay the curse and not remove it entirely, choosing death in this way was also a way of reinforcing the illusion of Snape’s loyalty towards Voldemort and reassuring him that his faux Double-agent did not switch sides.
- It may also have been to keep hidden the fact he had been cursed, so that Voldemort’s loyal spies don’t learn that Dumbledore found the ring, or that Dumbledore was already dying as that would let Voldemort get a massive upperhand morally and tactically when Dumbley shows his hand too early.
- Wormtail cut off his arm out of fear of Voldemort’s wrath; one would think Albus might have considered the path differently, considering the war of one-upmanship Dumbledore waged with Voldemort to save the wizarding world from the Dark Lord, he may have not wanted to emulate the coward. (Although this would have been an interesting parallel; Wormtail's sacrificed arm reviving Voldy, and Albus's ensuring Harry's survival).

As for why self punishment; Dumbledore had been eager to open up the resurrection stone and get to see his family that he was still guilty over. He had lived a full life and he was quite expectant to see peace and to meet his family, in death, if not in life. He had a plan and people who would carry it out and his death would aid in his bigger plan. So he wanted to hurry it up and at the same time be inflicted with pain. “Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living. And above all, those who live without love.” - Albus Dumbledore 115, he lived too long without close love.

*The Draco part is probably the silliest as innocent or not, it is one thing to attempt to protect him from failing to murder Dumbledore if it didn’t actually cost a life (as the invasion of Hogwarts did), it’s another thing to deliberately sacrifice yourself to protect an almost-adult from failing to murder you. Snape could have subtly offered Draco an “out” as an offer of protection from Voldemort, and if taken they could have tried to protect him the old-fashioned way, and it’s implied that he probably did make this offer to Draco, but that Draco refused the offer thinking that Snape was trying to steal his chance at glory.

Also; Why Dumbledore didn't use Horcruxes: https://archive.is/irp0Z
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 No.12840

>>12707
>>12727
Ngl, the films are all very well made. Sure they miss a lot of plotpoints but as adaptations that improve on upon the existing work they are amazing.
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 No.12934

>>9978
>>10849
Well we're never getting a TV series for sure. Adam Driver would have been a decent young Snape though (they'd have to find a way to make him look shorter though).
https://www.bustle.com/articles/103855-is-a-harry-potter-tv-series-happening-youll-want-to-sit-down-before-reading-jk-rowlings
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 No.13287

>>12586
There should be a fanfic where instead of doing the stupid reject modernity idiocy the Death Eaters try hijacking one of those nuclear subs and holding it hostage, through teleportation spells, the disguising potions, or whatever. It could be even made into a political piece, with an actual Corbyn Dumbledore and all.
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 No.13295

>>13287
Pretty cool idea, reminds me of when there was a Royal Navy sailor whistleblower a few years ago who admitted that the Vanguard trident SSBNs could be used by a terrorist/madman without even using arms. He said that someone could simply get RN fatigues, tailgate a group of sailors going into the sub and not get checked by security and the two-man rule was not observed in the launch room. Anyone could have gone into the trident submarine, hit azimuth align on the Garmin GPS unit, typed in 144 x 9 sets of numbers, pulled the trigger on the joystick and hit 144 cities with 100kt re-entry vehicles and as the alarm sounded there would be nothing the retarded sailors could do as they rushed the room. He said he did a test run to see how he could board a Vanguard when he wasn't listed on the complement and how he could stay in the launch room unobserved for enough time to launch an unauthorized strike.
https://wikileaks.org/trident-safety/
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 No.13316

if different great socialist thinkers could cast expecto patronum what would their animals be?
I can only think of some obvious ones:
>Posadas: dolphin
>Stirner: cow
>Hoxha: beaver
>Lenin: cat
what about Marx, Engels, Stalin, Mao?
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 No.13318

>>13316
maybe Marx and Engels would be a stork and an owl respectively, one for birthing the tradition and the other for being it’s most diligent student and teacher and delivering it across the world.
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 No.13323

>>13316
Marx lion
Engels eagle
Stalin worm
Mao horse
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 No.13331

>>13323
>Stalin
&ltworm
>Mao
&lthorse
Found the third-worldist

>>13316
Personally I would think I'd get a parrot or maybe a shark.

I reckon Stalin would get a Wolf, Lenin would get a Cat and Mao would get a Sparrow… I jest, more than likely he'd get a horse.
Marx, would get a Rooster IMO. As for Engels I suppose a Stork or Vulture might make sense
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 No.13335

>>13331
Took a few online quizzes for shits and giggles, got phoenix twice, and elephant, dolphin and owl once each.
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 No.13338

>>13316
>Stirner
>Cow
I know its about le epik milk memes, but Stirner embodies cat like behavior
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 No.13345

>>13338
You mean his books. The guy was pathetic IRL.
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 No.13495

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>>13345
His IRL behavior was also cat-like, and as part of [b]human[/b] society he received the appropriate response.
>>13338
Well cats do like milk…

>>13295
Pirate Wizards of the North Undersea!
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 No.13498

>>13495
>Pirate Wizards of the North Undersea
*Marxist Mateys

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