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 No.1050

WHO /BRAINTRAIN/ HERE?post braintraining shithttps://www.brainturk.com/dual-n-backI just started, apparently doing a session of this a day can help you quit drinking. its like a miracle. The way you play is you push the button when the sequence repeats however many times back. So it starts with 1 back, which is easy, you just gotta remember the very last position and letter. Then it goes to 2 back and its a lot harder on your attention span. post scores
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 No.1051

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Braintraining just seems like a scam to me, I fail to see how playing little minigames can make you smarter or more effective otherwise gamers would be the 300 IQ polymaths some of them believe themselves to be.Also, we've been using our brains for millions of years without needing to 'train' them except by actually using them for real purposes.Seems like another attempt by capitalism to sell us a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.However, if you think it works for you or you enjoy it, have at it man.
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 No.1052

>>1051>Braintraining just seems like a scam to meIt absolutely is.>I fail to see how playing little minigames can make you smarter or more effective otherwise gamers would be the 300 IQ polymaths some of them believe themselves to be.Yeah, there's zero evidence that getting good at these "brain games" transfers in any way to anything else. There is potential for using games in this way. In fact, there have been some cognitive improvements noted as a result of playing certain regular video games. However, it's much more profitable to make bullshit "brain train" games than to research what works. Instead, they design a progression scheme that mimics progress and tricks you into thinking you're improving when you're not.>Also, we've been using our brains for millions of years without needing to 'train' them except by actually using them for real purposes.Bad argument. Prior to the last few decades we didn't manage to get our muscles as huge as we get them now by training properly and eating/injecting the right stuff.>Seems like another attempt by capitalism to sell us a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.It's more cynical porkies taking advantage of legitimate science and scientificially illiterate people.>However, if you think it works for you or you enjoy it, have at it man.I use one of these services which I won't plug because they have bad practices and got caught doing false advertising. The games are enjoyable enough, even if they don't do anything to help my brain. What they can do is tell me how highly certain cognitive skills are functioning on a given day, or allow me to do a sort of mental calisthenics to wake my shit up before working on something.
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 No.1053

>>1052Oh, btw my source on this is I've studied game development and cognitive science a bit, so I have kind of an industry insider knowledge of this stuff when it first kicked off. There is real potential, but not with any commercial crap.
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 No.1055

>>1051>I fail to see how playing little minigames can make you smarter or more effective otherwise gamers would be the 300 IQ polymathsYour "argument" is that only big effects exist?>>1053 >Oh, btw my source on this is I've studied game development and cognitive science a bitI have also read some things in my life.
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 No.1057

>>1055>I have also read some things in my life.I studied this under the cogsci department at college.
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 No.1058

>>1057Then you should know that brain training has modest positive effects. Doing crosswords and sudoku helps a bit against getting senile and learning a second language has a drastic effect that amounts to a delay of five years. The Japanese brain-age guy is a real scientist.
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 No.1059

>>1058I said there are potential uses for it, but the commerical shit is a meme. It's much easier to make games that feel like they're training you than to make games that might actually help (especially if you want people to buy your product). It's a very easy scam to do, and there's a bunch of people doing it. The stuff that would actually work isn't generally commercially viable, so it's restricted to the occasional experimental stuff. Someone might figure out a way to make games they can sell (like Brain Age) but it's a market that's full of grifters. And video games aren't particularly good at preventing senility. Reading books, doing a hobby, exercising, etc - basically anything that stimulates you regularly will help you in that regard. "Brain training" is definitely a meme used to scam people.
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 No.1060

Total waste of time. Go learn new languages or something.https://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/http://www.studykanji.net/kanjiquiz/chromehttps://www.masteranylanguage.com/c/q/o/Korean/Alphabet/mmg1https://www.masteranylanguage.com/c/r/o/Korean/Gameshttps://rockalingua.com/games (español)https://www.chineseinflow.comhttps://tonedear.com/ear-training/absolute-perfect-pitch-testhttps://trainer.thetamusic.com/en/content/music-training-gameshttps://www.leetfree.com (select all questions, sort from easiest difficult, solve all in all major languages such as C, C++, Python, PHP, Java, JavaScript, SQL)Master electronics repair so you can never be cucked those fucking kikes who on purpose put the absolute shittiest capacitors possible in every electronic sold today (computer parts, monitors, microwave ovens, etc.) so their products last no longer than 3 years, and charge $500 for video cards that cost $200 in 2015:Electronics, soldering etc.:What are VOLTs, OHMs & AMPs?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYS9kdS56l8A simple guide to electronic components.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Maq5IyHSucElectronic structure of atomshttps://www.khanacademy.org/science/chemistry/electronic-structure-of-atomshttps://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics (just 3 sections Electric charge, Circuits, Magnetic forces)https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineeringHow Diodes Work - The Learning Circuithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SSkjWuUri4How Transistors Work - The Learning Circuithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Uy4EL4xWsMOSFETs and How to Use Them | AddOhms #11https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrvvkYTW_0kHow to Test Capacitors with and without using Multimeterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqvL7CyemiwEasy way How to test Capacitors, Diodes, Rectifiers on Powersupply using Multimeterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4jTHhXuKLADesoldering and soldering SMD components with a minimum of equipment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g8mvs482NgProfessional SMT Soldering: Hand Soldering Techniques - Surface Mounthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uiroWBkdFYHow To Solder SMD Using Solder Paste at the Bench. Solder Like a Pro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_yFDpSTfao
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 No.1061

>>1060learning a language would be nice, but i think id require someone else who knew the language to be effective at learning it and then having some use for it. It'd be nice to be able to read some theory in its original german but I don't know if the investment is worth it.Similarly with electronic repair, how do I ever gain those skills without having something to practice on. Which starts to get expensive. I think electronics are cheap enough today that its more expensive to buy those repair tools rather than just throwing it out and buying another microwave. If I had money for a hobby, I would for sure be getting into stuff like drones though. Not trying to be a negative nancy, but I think we're talking two separate things. The attractiveness of brain training is that it's easy and free, at least the one i posted. You can come home, crash on the couch, and do it from your phone, 20 minutes a day and supposedly see results.
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 No.1063

>>1061>The attractiveness of brain training is that it's easy and free, at least the one i posted. You can come home, crash on the couch, and do it from your phone, 20 minutes a day and supposedly see results.still, he's right : if this is just memorizing random shit, might as well learn vocabulary in a new language.
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 No.1064

We already have a thread for general advice for language learning: >>187

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