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 No.718

This will serve as a platform to dedicated to civil discussion between Globalist left and Nationalist Right.

Ask me anything, I will answer to the best of my ability.

I am a proud believer in NatSoc, I believe it can solve many ethnic issues, both sides should try to understand each other and develop our debating skills, hopefully this thread will facilitate further discussions.

What Nazism or National Socialism is at it's core a hyper nationalist ideology centered around a blood first mentality.
NatSoc supporters are typically white supremacists however NatSoc isn't strictly limited to Europeans, it is compatible with any race one could argue Israel is technically Jewish NatSoc or even modern day "communist" China.
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 No.719

Pride is for fags.
Go ask Eugene in his thread what he thinks. That will be a much more worthwhile conversation.

When it comes to Germans I am a proud racist. I guess there's that.
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 No.720

>>718
I have objections to your framing, it's very confusing.

There is Internationalism, which has been the political cause of social democrats, socialists and communists. It's basically 2 things:
1 Peace treaties backed up by arms-control and neutral ground buffer-zones, (the military is the guarantor for diplomacy not the replacement of diplomacy)
2 Trade agreements designed to exchange commodities freely but avoid transfer of capital or labor.

People who have called them selves the left have traditionally supported Internationalism. I'm not sure if what you call left is those kinds of people. So maybe avoid ambiguous labels.

I have no idea what you mean with Globalism, there's like a 100 mutually exclusive definitions. The opposing force to Internationalism is Trans-nationalism/multi-nationalism. It's massive corporations operating in many countries, their goal is to shuffle capital and labor around the world in ways that exclusively serves their interests. They're trying gain enough power to be like their own states in world affairs. They want to reduce national governments into Prison guards that hold down the work-force.

I'm also not sure what you mean with nationalist right ?
Do you mean the political configuration that support the economic interests of small and medium capitalists. Not everything that calls it self the right at present is representing those interests.
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 No.721

>>718
>I am a proud believer in NatSoc, I believe it can solve many ethnic issues
I'm not sure what you want to get out of "ethnic-pride".

If you want to be allowed to only interact with people that look similar to you, that is acceptable and we can accommodate. We can organize new ways to make that work without trampling or inconveniencing others. However if your conception entertains any kind of hierarchy that ranks ethnic identities, or battles between ethnic identities, that's a hard nope.

>What Nazism or National Socialism is at it's core a hyper nationalist ideology centered around a blood first mentality.

Nazim as in German fascism during the 20th century was national suicide on behalf of imperial finance capital that wanted to ram Germany into the Soviet-block because the Soviets wouldn't submit to imperial rule. They trick people into believing they become "the master-race" if they fight for imperial-rule. In reality it's just sacrificing people.

The Nazis weren't a type of socialist, they were a type of fascism.
China is not a type of fascism.
The Zionists in Israel have crossed over into fascism over the last year. So you are correct on that one.

But the Zionists aren't really Jewish anymore. It's difficult to define Jewishness, but Jews tend to live in a diaspora, they tend to value intellectual achievement, and adaptation to local cultural norms. Jews also invented the kibbutz, and socialists really like that. Zionists celebrate stupidity and value blunt violence, they confuse recklessness with chutzpah.

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