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 No.3546

I've seen only a few other threads about horror on here and they seemed too specific, so I thought I'd make a broader one.

How do you feel about the current state of horror media? To me it seems at it's always been in a way; a mixed bag. However I feel like I've noticed this trend and, correct me if you think I'm wrong, a lot of more successful recent horror seems to be more creator-driven than in the past.

This is natural I think, as the internet has opened a lot of opportunities for more unique visions and riskier decisions that large studios would otherwise reject.

In a strange sort of symbiosis, though, these large studios attempt to acquire these successful creators and even properties for themselves; see the phenomenon of Slenderman for example. Once an entirely community made, solely internet creation has gotten several of his own movies, and has by and large become an 'artifact' of sorts of 2010's-era web. Studios cannibalize these unique properties and, once they've made some modicum of a profit, utterly destroy the integrity of them, leaving communities to look for the next big thing in horror.

With that aside, feel free to discuss almost literally anything horror related here; movies, books, ARGs, games, creepypasta (the rare good kind, if you can find any).
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 No.3547

>>8914
I honestly think we're in a golden age of horror. Companies like A24 and Blumhouse are funding smaller and more creative directors many of whom are actually good who are then given free reign to put their vision to film. They've figured out that even crappy horror films generally break even and they only need a few breakout stars to make large profits. While a lot of crap is being made we're also getting a lot of high quality films that big studios wouldn't risk like The Lighthouse and Split.
Not to say everything is rosy but horror is the perfect genre for this to happen in and is flourishing for it.
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 No.3548

>>8915
Eh
The 80s was the horror Golden Age
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 No.3549

>>8923
My eyes have started to glaze over when I see 80s horror discussion, the cheap slasher and gross out schlock people rave about doesn't hold any appeal for me anymore.
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 No.3550

i find horror kind of boring, very rarely ever get scared by a piece of media - feel like it works better ats a secondary characteristic rather than the primary focus
closest a media has got to scaring me was psychological horror that made me think about what was going on as well as stuff that could apply to irl, allowing my own brain to get me all scared
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 No.3551

>>8937
Fuck off 80s special effects were great they were the peak of special effects, if not then it was the early 90s so yeaaaaa
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 No.3552

>>8923
We're in another golden age.
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 No.3553

>>8945
No we’re in a fools gold age
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 No.3554

>>8914
I've been told before that horror has had a history of being progressive, and that it is a reactionary genre. Is there a progressive horror lineage?
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 No.3555

Zombie movies are great, especially when done in a fresh way, like Train to Busan. I like that the genre was started as a critique of consumer capitalism – mindless people consuming everything in sight, set in a mall.

Zombies are consuming a finite resource (humans) and they do it so that the resource cannot multiply itself, zombies represent unsustainable capitalism.

Looking at it in a dialectical way, zombies are often caused by research and experimentation. Unlike other disaster movies where the threat is always without, zombie movies show us that human activity itself carries the seeds of the destruction of our civilisation. In disaster movies there is a threat that the whole Earth will be wiped out, the damage is always total. In zombie movies, there is no such expectation. Zombies are ultimately a threat that can be defeated, either by killing, or by hiding in a bunker until they die off. In zombie movies they're always fiddling on the radio, trying to find army bases (yeah, shit implication), and so on, implying that no one assumes that zombies can get everyone on the planet; unlike an asteroid that destroys all life on Earth, or the Sun dying, or the Earth's core stopping rotating, etc. Zombies are a threat to our civilisation, not on human life. Human life will continue, even if it is some fucked up mad max society.
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 No.3557

>>8915
I think most contemporary horror movies start off with an interesting premise but they never deliver an interesting ending, it either ends without explaining anything or it's a scatterbrained attempt of just trying to wrap it up. Like with Annihilation, I liked the surreal horror of it but the ending (aliens and shit) is just lazy writing. I think a recent horror movie where I liked the ending was Get Out!

But yeah, I feel like many times writers are just starting with "wouldn't it be scary if…" but completely forget to write a story.
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 No.3558

I ownder if there's any horror films that were made in the USSR

>inb4 Come and See
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 No.3559

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>Ctrl + F "Twin Peaks
>0 results

it's time fellas… let's discuss the greatest show ever made and why it's actually about capitalism
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 No.3560

>>10449
>it's actually about capitalism
Yeah, about how great capitalism is.
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 No.3561

>>8973
>I've been told before that horror has had a history of being progressive
Yeah, like Hellraiser.
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 No.3562

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 No.3563

>>10448
Not really a horror movie, more like a Sci-Fi movie with horror elements, but I watched "Sputnik" yesterday which is a 2020 Russian movie playing during Soviet times. It sort of resembles the classic Russian/Soviet film making style, sadly it tried very hard to imitate typical Hollywood tropes at times which sometimes made it look incoherent. I still found it very very entertaining.
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 No.3564

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Saint Maud has been released. It looks like it might be worth going to see.
It's had good reviews from the Morning Star
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/film-round-up-october-9-2020
and Mark Kermode
https://youtu.be/WAVGfS7X9j8
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 No.3565

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I'm making the Spooktober thread you can't stop me and picrel has the greatest horror soundtrack ever
https://youtu.be/3o615tjQvhs
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 No.3566

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>>10805
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 No.3567

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>>10798
is nihilistic, christian-themed horror in vogue? I really enjoyed the lodge and hereditary. there's a recurring painting in the lodge that is quite possibly the most creepy thing I have ever seen.
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 No.3568

there's not enough psychological horror and there never has been
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 No.3569

>>10448

Idi i Smotri is like the apocalypse now of soviet era cinema. It takes its name from the book of revelation, for that matter.
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 No.3570

>>11568
Come and See is IMO much better than Apocalypse Now.
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 No.3571

>>10450
Have you seen Season 3, which takes place almost entirely in the post-industrial poverty of the original town, or the half-abandoned post-recession suburban sprawl of Las Vegas? It's literally Hinterland: the show.
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 No.3572

>>11588
I think those two movies are very different, and you really can't compare them.
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 No.3573

I was trying to find a good list of 2019/2020 horror movies and on Rotten Tomatoes there is surprisingly a lot with tons of hidden gems:

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/best-horror-movies-of-2020/

Many of those have socio-political commentary (one of them is literally a horror parable on the American-sponsered genocide of Mayan people in Guatemala), and I've noticed that on IMDB, [b]any[/b] movie with socio-political commentary gets downvoted by right-wingers or uneducated burgers who think some leftist Hollywood smugs secretly try to deceive them. Like, it doesn't even need to decidedly leftist, once it gets political IMDB reviewers have a knee-jerk reaction against it like "leftist agenda ruins my creature flicks!" and stuff like that. "I was expecting to see a horror movie but what is this, the plot makes no sense!!"

This actually confirmed that most average right-wing normies are probably, generally, very stupid people. They don't understand anything on a meta level and even if they had an IQ that entail the comprehension for it, they will just pretend not to see or hear it in a pathological way.
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 No.3574

I watched shaun of the dead and it made me fucking cry
Not just the conventially emotional stuff but also when it showed the aftermath of how they even commodified the zombie attacks

those reality shows etc

this might have been just a dumb zombie from edgar wright and simon pegg but it reckon it was trying to tell something deeper that i'm too thick to understand

any anons have their opinions on the movie?
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 No.3575

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>>3546
I'm gonna leave this here.
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 No.3576

>>3575
how can someone just reduce a movie to such a reductionist conclusion. it's like they watched a trailer for the movie and assumed it wuz da joooooz
If they actually watched another John Carpenter film, they'd be calling him a """slave""" to """system""" since at least 1976.
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 No.3577

>>3575
this is horrific.
>>3567
Hereditary was good. I felt like a boomer when someone got their head chopped of in a moving vehicle. It was so shocking I wanted to leave the theater for a second.
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 No.3578

>>3577
the logic of the kid lying down in the bad trying to escape what had just happened with a few more hours of normalcy and then having the reality confirmed in the morning with the screams was very striking, made the spooky cult stuff afterwards seem kind of lame.
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 No.3579

>>3575
Fucking based
I never watched the movie and always felt uncomfortable how much pol liked this movie but lmfao they got project muh jews onto everything
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 No.3580

>>3579
>I never watched the movie
Why haven't you seen it? You should, and also watch Zizek's funny commentary on it.
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 No.3581

>>3580
The movie is great were can I watch zizeks commentary?
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 No.3582

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 No.3583

>>3574
I got the feeling that they were satirizing something (that I can't put into words because I'm ESL) at the end of The World's End too.
Has someone else felt like this when watching Hot Fuzz? It's the only one I haven't watched recently so I wouldn't remember if there was anything that could be considered commentary on capitalism.

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