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>>6588
Could someone summarize his arguments?

>>6590
Neetism and return to monke communism is more radical than marxism.

>>6588
What's he say exactly? I've read Simulation and Simulacra and it was kinda schizo tbh, certainly no refined arguments.

>>6592
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>>6593
t. schizo

>2021-07-27
Nice. Today's Baudrillard's birthday, too.

But yeah, do you have any quotes from him that would clarify your statement?

>>6588
Mirror of Production is more of an anthropological critique of Marxism, specifically of Marxist anthropologist Maurice Godelier. Baudrillard's general point throughout his books is that Marxism doesn't go far enough in its critique of capitalism, it is itself still trapped within the categories of political economy, being merely a "mirror image" of capitalist production, hence the title of that book.

But that doesn't mean that within capitalism Marx's critique isn't relevant, and IMO Baudrillard strawmans Marx by projecting vulgar Marxism (Marxism as a worldview) onto him.
It would be interesting if he read the guys from Wertkritik. Ironically Robert Kurz himself strawmanned Baudrillard, thinking he's an ideologue of the postmodernity and neoliberal society when he was one of the earliest to detect the shift and criticize it. The confusion probably comes from his cynicism towards Marxists (and towards Foucault, Deleuze, Lyotard) still being stuck in the fordist paradigm at that time when capitalism has already moved on and incorporated some of their criticism.

>>6592
S&S is the least interesting of his works, it's not representative either, but unfortunately american academics turned it into a meme, so nobody reads anything else.

Here's the whole book and a tl;dr for the lazy ones
http://www.telospress.com/neither-marx-nor-smith-baudrillards-critique-of-productivism/

>>6601
The second part of that summary is much better:
http://www.telospress.com/something-in-all-men-profoundly-rejoices-at-seeing-a-car-burn-pure-expenditure-against-production/

>Under capitalism, workers are exploited not only as a result of the machinations of the system, which dominates them, but also by the code, which co-opts and coerces them. The reinforcement and perpetuation of this code in traditional Marxism ironically services the needs of capitalism. It generates this effect by means of popularizing the myth that labor-power is each individual’s “fundamental human potential” rather than a capitalist social relation. As Baudrillard writes:
<And in this Marxism assists the cunning of capital. It convinces men that they are alienated by the sale of their labor power, thus censoring the much more radical hypothesis that they might be alienated as labor power, as the “inalienable” power of creating value by their labor.

What also comes through is how Baudrillard at that time was still influenced by the French philosophical milieu. You have a fetishization of desire and the margins for example, some of it reads like a ultra-left manifesto. Just a few years later he attacks that in Forget Foucault.

>>6591
Anarcho-primitivism is the most reactionary ideology when you think about it.

>>6605
>>6591
Baudrillard would find anarcho-primitivism completely ridiculous. Anarcho- because for him primitive societies were in no way anarchic; and -primitivism because for him the logic of "primitive" societies is a general social logic that is present in every society, so we never left "primitive" societies anyway, but they never existed as imagined by anprims.

Furthermore he was a priori opposed to all kinds of returns for similar reasons that any Marxist would be: you can't oppose the current sytem with a previous form that has precisely led to the current order and was absorbed by it. You can only oppose the system by some further or "higher order" form that overcomes the current one.

>>6617
That's a stab at Deleuze and Guattari as well.

Autism is another mental illness Baudrillard uses as an analogy for the society as a whole. He started doing that pretty early, at the beginning of the 90s at least.

1st pic: Transparency of Evil (1990)
2nd pic: The Illusion of the End (1992)
3rd pic: The Perfect Crime (1995)

Speaking if baudrillard, i really don't understand what the fuck he means in "No Tears for Sarajevo". Somebody wants to illuminate me?

>>6629
I only skimmed through, but he talks about the West not having any purpose any more so it has to import it from the outside, find a struggle in the rest of the world and turn it into victimhood of others so it can larp as their savior. This just goes to show that it is the West which is suffering from a poverty of purpose, not the rest of the world.