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>>4875
https://archive.today/3Bj9s
>u/quipore: This is a bad statistic and shouldn't be used. While the statistics are true as reported, there is a layer underneath that makes it a bad statistic.
>While in prison, you have every incentive to lie about your religious preference. It can lead to early parole if you "Find Jesus", or lead to reduced sentences before you ever set foot in prison. Given that religious preference necessarily is self-reported, this statistic is dubious at best if it correlates with reality.
>While I suspect it is still roughly true, that those who believe they simply have to ask for forgiveness will commit crimes at a higher rate than those who believe that they alone are responsible for their actions, the statistic is problematic to use and there is no other way of gaining a more reliable metric for it.
>…
>u/murderonelmsstreet: Most of these parole boards are looking for something that justified letting someone out early, obviously 'Good Behavior' is a broad stroke, and so you need something else. Finding religion or being religious is just part of it, and the odds an atheist who ignores these factors (religious beliefs) are slim to none compared the number of people who still contend that religious devotion helps deter inappropriate behavior in society.
>So, none of them are going to admit to not being religious and being denied parole because of it.

Child abusers target the *vulnerable*, regardless of religious grounds.
https://archive.today/r62GG
https://web.archive.org/web/2023*/https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/sexual-violence.pdf

we need to be accurate about the definition of "child" here.

Any one whom hasbt hit puberty yet is a child.

>>4879
The whole "they could be lying" so it's not true is a weak critique. Even given the most charitable benefit of the doubt, cannot account for the outside 90% percent near unanimous number.
And the fact that there's high incidents of sexual assault in schools isn't a critique either, since those assaults are demonstrably carried out by only one or two teachers in a school.
The survey of actual convicted pedophiles as a population also gives credence to the findings. We have the highest assurance that they have offended while your stat about school assaults casts aspersions on the entire school faculty.

>>4884
*cannot account for the outsized 90% percent near unanimous number.

>>4879
>>While in prison, you have every incentive to lie about your religious preference. It can lead to early parole if you "Find Jesus", or lead to reduced sentences before you ever set foot in prison.
This is a complete ass pull by a seething Christian redditor and not supported by data. There's not a lot of data on prisoners' religion but the data that there is shows not only are prisoners less likely to be religious then the general population, they're less likely to be CHRISTIAN by like a third. A prisoner is actually more likely to identify as Islamic then the general population by several multiples.
How can all this be so if prisoners are trying to get out on parole by finding Jesus. Not to mention how hard parole is to get for violent crimes. Most prisoners angling for parole are for non violent offenses where there's a realistic chance it could be granted.
And.surveys have their faults but when it's near goddamn unanimous that's an objective finding.
The idea that they're lying is pure speculation backed by nothing. You could just as easily conclude that a religion that guarantees salvation breeds criminals that feel there will be no consequences to their actions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240204180913/https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-prisoners-less-likely-to-be-atheists/

Mods can you also unspoiler the picture. I couldn't post without a spoiler for some reason

>>4888
Attachments can't be unspoilered. I'd suggest reporting the issue in /meta/ or on matrix

>>4890
Attachment? It's a jpeg isn't it?

Bumping for great justice

Adults are pathologically incapable of seeing children as fellow human beings. Irony is, the social assignment of innocence/docility is exactly why kids are easily vulnerable.

Why doesn't the left use this more against CHUDs that constantly smear them as groomers. Are you all little limp wristed fairies like the right says?