/games/ - Games

>>5941
Just tried it out, holy shit the autistic level of detail in this mod when it comes gun handling, wound treatment, inventory management, etc. is glorious. Love it. 10/10 would recommend.

Ps. the idea behind the proprietary "smart" magazine with the assault rifle which locks you out of using the mags you steal off the enemies would be fucking hilarious if it wasn't so frustrating as a game mechanic.

>>5941
I honestly am having trouble telling if someone was attempting to make the most annoying mod of all time or if this is genuine European Thinking Man autism.

>>5947
Holy shit I didn't even know why the fuck I couldn't load those magazines. It kept warning me about breaking the EULA and I didn't give shit about what it says. It turns out DRM has been implemented in armory.

FCK DRM now before the demon invasion prevents from defending yourself.
https://www.fckdrm.com/

>FCK DRM now before it prevents you from defending yourself in the demon invasion
sorry. you can also check Defective by design.
https://www.defectivebydesign.org/

After a week of pain, suffering, and unending hell. I finally know how to swap items in the inventory. Hideous destructor needs to revamp it's documentation. There are many subtle and tiny stuff left out, despite it being crucial to the mod.

I haven't played anything but hd for the last week. I can surely say I no longer know how DOOM even was supposed to be played. The Archvile that was supposed to be a pain in the ass is now an unstoppable god. The Archevile will force you to have a chainsaw or waste ammo, so you can gib bodies.

Projectiles are not a joke anymore. Face two barons and you're done for without cover. While speaking about cover. You can't hide for long against a cyber demon. Walls, boxes, anything you can cover behind can be destroyed by the cyber demon.

This is hilarious. So if you haven't played Hideous Destructor yet, here's another reason why you should. Door Busting. DOOM was made decades ago destructible environment wasn't a thing back then, but with hd you can bust about every door in the map. I was playing hd with Dimension of the Boomed a quake-1 style map. DotB is gorgeous. I love its style, but I noticed how it forces to solve puzzles and fight more enemies so you can open a path. I was okay with this until I reached map04. This map is just a giant puzzle. It requires you to look for 8 switches all over the map in order to finish the map. I already had a rocket launcher with some heat missiles and decided to bust the door and finish the map in less than a minute. Completely skipping the whole map like it's not even there. Isn't this how DOOM guy supposed to be? and they said hd is the opposite of DOOM.

>>6254 (me)
Clip from action

>>6254
mappack?

>>6283
Here: https://www.moddb.com/mods/dimension-of-the-boomed/downloads/dimension-of-the-boomed-true-colour
Grab the hd patch if you want to play it with hd: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ytme2u9bkmqunc2/DOTB_HDPatch.pk3?dl=1

>>6271
>27MB for a 30 second clip
Have you heard of compression, anon?

>>6309
For what ever reason my uploaded videos don't show up so here's a link to the compressed version: https://streamable.com/m8rk3p

I still can't find anyone to play doom with :(

>It's 12 am and I can't sleep
>decide to spend some time playing doom
>launch jade earth with hideous destructor and Ugly as sin
>reach the first archvile in the map
>decide to rack all the bodies in one room so I can put my DERPs near them
<this shit took a long of time but finally I can just move on
>go and finish archvile for good
<archvile-death.ogg
>wait for him to restructure the entire room
<nothing happens for 15 minutes
<hmmm… I guess I can pick my stuff and go then
>pick up the DERPs and drop the vulcanette that took ages to fix
>about to go to next sector
<archvile_laugh.wav
>Entire room resurrects with 3 hell knights, 5 chaingunners, shit ton of imps, spectres, babuins, shotgunners and zombies
>I run for the vulcanette I dropped earlier, grab it and give a last fight against the resurrected corpses
>A single hell knight fire ball makes it's way through the 2100 rpm barrage of bullets
>die
FUCKING hell. This took almost an hour and ended being absolutely useless.

>>7123
>restructure
resurrect* Sorry for the mistake.

>>172
You gan shidposd all you want gomrad

>>6271
What modifications and port are you using? That shit looks interesting.

>>7221
GZdoom with hideous destructor, mapset is dimension of the boomed.
https://zdoom.org/downloads
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/92574

>>171
The one on the right is more visually distinct, which is important in a game where you are twitching around blasting at shit. I haven't played Eternal, but DOOM 2016 was often hard to tell what the fuck was going on because all the designs look like they got shredded through a blender first.

Also the gore should be a reward for you fucking them up instead of their default state. Wound decals showing up on the character model or blood spurting out is less striking when the model is already covered in a layer of blood and guts.

Zik and his damn mods keep looking fresh as fuck
https://youtu.be/EuW12ozGp2s

Hideous Destructor player here. I've been thinking about making a giant map pack for Hdest that is more like a campaign with a branching story that revolves around the lore present in Hideous Destructor. But I have to learn ZScript before I can take any step forward.
So Can I ask people here for resources and good mod examples for zdoom that has a campaign or similar idea? I know some C and currently learning java. I want to see the capabilities of zdoom and how to exploit it to achieve what I want.

>>7481
Action Doom 1 and 2

>>7481
I've been working with zscript since it was published. Drop some questions and I'll answer whenever the planets align.
Just FYI: I'm not a programmer, but I do have a whole lot of experience writing (functioning) code.


For code examples, you can learn a bunch of things from the zscript code that comes with gzdoom. You can also find it on the official github:
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/tree/master/wadsrc/static/zscript

marrub was working documenting zscript here:
https://github.com/marrub--/zdoom-doc
Do not let the repo's age deter you from using it: the information that *is* there is still hugely informative and up-to-date. marrub announced a replacement a while ago.

Guncaster was popularly chosen as the best zscript mod, codewise, on the zdoom forum a while ago.You can find it here:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37066
I can vouch from personal experience that KeksDose code is well written and worth copying. Reading Guncaster will also teach you about libraries, how to use them, and a bunch of other shit specific to (gz)doom modding.

>I know some C
zscript is pretty much a subscript of C++. It also more limited than your big boy languages, and so more straightforward to picking up. Familiarity with C++ concepts is helpful, but not necessary.

No matter what you'll have to do math, so teach yourself trigonometry, vector math, and calculus if you aren't familiar yet. More advanced topic might be useful, but don't overdo it.
A good resource is Eric Lengyel's Mathematics for 3D Game Programming and Computer Graphics. Ignore the hilarious cover, it's genuinely useful.
GZDoom is also sensitive to cache misses and I recommend you familiarize yourself with cache optimization.


All that out of the way: you don't need to know a whole lot of zscript, or math, or code to do what you want. What I'm charitably going to call "complex zscript code" is more for performing abstract operations efficiently, i.e.: internally extending the engine. You won't need to do that.

>>7605
Thanks for the info. It'll be of great use in this journey. I should've mentioned that I indeed never wrote any zscript except for some slight modifications to fine tune some settings.

I'll keep posting my progress here. So far:
I still haven't done anything technical, as I'm still conceptualizing the aspects of this map pack. How the story should progress, how should I turn the linear progression of doom maps into a choice based branching story, NPCs and their interactions with the player (ace's follower mod is relevant and I might make it so that followers get to act on their own be it dynamically or according to a script). Once I answer those questions and hopefully find some inspirations, I'll be able to start making something real.
Some map packs that come to my mind when mentioning simulating progress are Unreal RPG, Ashes 2063, and Eviternity. Eviternity's back-to-back transition creates a connection between each map, which makes the game feel more like a progressive story rather than disconnected travel between locations.
I didn't talk about the story much, besides being inspired from hdest lore. The lore of hdest itself manifests in the mechanics it adds to the game. Guns, handling, devil magic, etc… Though it's not much, it's more than enough for this project. I intend the branches to be based on the items the player decides to use along his journey through whatever failed UAC/AGM experiment, which the player is tasked to cleanup with a team (why I mentioned ace's follower mod).

check out these .wads I made, Doom 2 in UDMF format:
>dynoomic.wad
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCQBoFhwDjjU1npOoOoR3ZZs_s1Z2Xlu/view
>toxic_planet.wad
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19skMmlnJKjYStfFs36gZvTq5gl97J8Nj/view
>corpfrsq.wad
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mS7A53ntd9tHsOc_eOVQ9EKDS-YVfHo/view
>conservatory.wad
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Kido5Rb2pWWZMgzSBKYzea4lRMb52Vz/view

>>7838
Perhaps a little more context?

>>7839
aight.
Dynoomic:
>tiny test map from 2019, after hiatus from a making a mapset in development hell
>singleplayer only, UDMF format

>>7848
Toxic Planet
>somewhat larger map from summer of 2020
>singleplayer only, UDMF, still no difficulty settings

>>7849
Corporate Firing Squad
>corpfrsq.wad
>made in October 2020
>singleplayer only, UDMF
>difficulty settings and custom par time implemented

>>7850
Conservatory
>development was from November 2020 to early February 2021
>singleplayer, UDMF format
>one of the better two maps, along with corpfrsq.wad
>what if TNT MAP22 but better/in my style
>honestly, screenshots give the context for my wads

What is the longest single Doom map anyway? And is it fun?

>>7852
You could always find longer maps in doomworld but I had ton of fun playing jadeearth
>>7838
Will give some of those a shot.

>>7838
Respect for mappers, my boy. Gonna give these a lick and let you know.

>>7858
Are you generally curious, or looking for recommendations?

>>7977
Oopsie
>>7852

>>7838
Third link (corpfrsq.wad) don't work.

>>7848
I like the concept behind this, albeit it could be done in boom format. Imagine a larger map that constantly sends you through teleports to keyhunt with switches scattered around. Fast encounters on conveyors is worth a try.
>>7849
I love the way you made the encounters here. From rooms full of imps to the vile, baron, and revenants mixed with hitscanners fight. I had ton fun playing this, albeit it was rather short. One more thing I like the design in general I noticed how the blue key is held in a hand. The overall look of the map is like a mine and that was interrupted once you go past the red door.
Again I fail to see why was this made in udmf and not something that's more adopted like boom or even vanilla. I don't see anything here utilizing any of the features UDMF provides.

Gonna try the other two maps now, [spoiler]both vanilla and with gameplay mods[/spoiler].

>>7851
Playing this right now and I gotta say that's a lot of imps my man

>>7979
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mS7A53ntd9tHsOc_eOVQ9EKDS-YV_fHo/view?usp=sharing
try this one

>>168
Youre wrong, its fucking amazing. Best game ive played last 5 years

>>8050
This one works, thank you!
Also, played the other maps. Gonna review 'em proper later. Been busy, sorry.
The micro-review is: love your aesthetic sense and you have the right (i.e. experimental) attitude, but you still got some learning ahead of you in terms of flow and feel.

Showing off my abilities with the sword.
https://video.hardlimit.com/videos/watch/88911d95-b6c4-4e95-bb83-291052018b70

Looks like this thread dies the moment i stop posting clips here, huh.
Here: https://video.hardlimit.com/videos/watch/3c6605c3-11b3-4d82-8960-bdd313ce86ce

>>10152
More like there isn't much to talk about. If you don't know about Doom wads yet… what are you waiting for?

>>10164
True. We haven't done any mp sessions here, or mapping projects (would like to see more of your maps GDE), or managed any events really. I'll think of something to push this thread higher

>>10171
good place to share my vanilla doom mappack I guess, It's kinda old by now but I still work on more maps for it from time to time.
https://youtu.be/EJEUvrQwyXU

>>10173
download link: https://gamebanana.com/mods/141480

>>171
The only excuse I can think for this is if there are way more enemies, I feel like hardware would choke trying to render all of the first ones, I hate the arms and legs of the new one

I'm back!
OuterLogistics.wad
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1odwQAWenCt7L6Gx2IOORTrnnsXb7k_Nf/view
This map is made for PrBoom+ 2.6um, it is Boom format with use of DEHEXTRA Dehacked patch and a UMAPINFO lump.

geoddo.itch.io/bridgeroom

>>11845
I don't get it.

Quake is better 100%